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Dáil

Suspension of Member.

Neil T.C. Blaney Minister for Agriculture and Fisheries (Mr. Blaney) Fianna Fáil

I move:

That Deputy Harte be suspended from the service of the House.

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Do you agree with this result?

We were in Committee. It was not reported to the Dáil. Under Standing Order No. 50——

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Patrick Hogan An Ceann Comhairle Labour Party

This is a motion.

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We were in Committee. It should be reported to the Dáil. Under Standing Order No. 50——

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Patrick Hogan An Ceann Comhairle Labour Party

No; there is no precedent for any such action.

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May I read Standing Order No. 50:

...the Chairman shall forthwith suspend proceedings and report the circumstances to the Dáil...

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Patrick Hogan An Ceann Comhairle Labour Party

This is the Dáil.

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When did you report it to the Dáil?

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Patrick Hogan An Ceann Comhairle Labour Party

This is the Dáil in session.

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The Committee was in session.

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Patrick Hogan An Ceann Comhairle Labour Party

Deputy Harte is suspended from the service of the House.

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I think this is wrong.

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Patrick Hogan An Ceann Comhairle Labour Party

There may be rules some Deputies did not hear before.

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Standing Orders——

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Deputies

Chair, Chair.

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Patrick Hogan An Ceann Comhairle Labour Party

Will Deputy O'Higgins please resume his seat? The position is that the Leas-Cheann Comhairle reported the matter to me when I came into the House.

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A Deputy

In the back corridor?

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Patrick Hogan An Ceann Comhairle Labour Party

He reported it from a seat in the House.

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That is correct.

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Deputy Harte has been flouting the rules of the House——

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The Deputy was called to an action in another country.

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May I be allowed to explain——

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Patrick Hogan An Ceann Comhairle Labour Party

No.

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I appealed to the Leas-Cheann Comhairle and he refused to listen to me.

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Deputies

Chair, Chair.

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Patrick Hogan An Ceann Comhairle Labour Party

Under the orders of the House, Deputy Harte must leave the Chamber.

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In protest, I refuse to leave the House.

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Deputies

Chair, Chair.

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Patrick Hogan An Ceann Comhairle Labour Party

Then I must ask the Captain to accompany the Deputy.

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I would leave under normal circumstances but——

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Deputies

Chair, Chair.

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Get him out.

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Apples will grow again. Remember I will meet the Minister on even terms.

Deputy Harte withdrew from the Chamber.

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Now that Deputy Harte has obeyed an order of the House, I want to inquire what action it is proposed to take about the continued—repeated to my ears five times —statement by the Minister for Agriculture and Fisheries that Deputy Harte was a liar. We cannot have one law for one side of the House and another law for the other.

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Deputies

Hear, hear.

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If Deputy Harte has been suspended from the business of the House for calling the Minister a liar, the Minister must withdraw or also be suspended.

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Patrick Hogan An Ceann Comhairle Labour Party

That matter should have been dealt with immediately.

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Of course it should. On many occasions I requested the Leas-Cheann Comhairle to deal with it. Are we to have a situation in which when you are not in the Chair, there is to be complete disorder permitted from one side of the House?

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Deputies

Hear, hear.

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May I at this stage, in the hope that——

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Patrick Hogan An Ceann Comhairle Labour Party

This is quite irregular from both sides of the House.

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In an effort to bring some order back to the House, may I, if I have transgressed the orders or the rules of the House in any matter or phrase or word I used, unreservedly withdraw such remarks?

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The Minister for Labour got you to do that.

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Patrick Hogan An Ceann Comhairle Labour Party

We are resuming on the Committee Stage of the Livestock Marts Bill.

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Bring back Deputy Harte and let justice prevail.

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It is not the Minister I blame but the Leas-Cheann Comhairle.

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Maybe he did not hear it.

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He could not help hearing it. It was bellowed in a louder voice than mine and that takes some bellowing.

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