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Dáil
‹ Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Schools Management Boards.

Secondary school management boards

Summary

Deputies pressed the Minister to change rules or take positive steps to establish management boards with teacher and parent representation in secondary schools. He supported encouraging such boards but said he would not impose rules on the private institutions; the exchange grew contentious before the Chair ended the supplementary questions.

asked the Minister for Education if he will change the rules for secondary schools in consultation with the appropriate interests, in order to secure the establishment of management boards with adequate representation for teachers and parents.

Comment on this

It is open to secondary schools to establish boards of management constituted as appropriate to meet each school's requirements. I think I answered a question on this last week. These schools are private institutions. It has not been the practice to make rules governing their management and it is not my intention to do so.

Comment on this

Is the Minister aware of the procedure adopted by one of his predecessors in relation to introducing boards of management to primary schools which involved a redrawing of rules for primary schools? Would he not agree that it is open to him to do the same thing for secondary schools as it was for his predecessor to do for primary schools?

Comment on this

I agree that a predecessor of mine took steps to have primary boards established. I agree with it and he deserves praise and commendation for it. As the Deputy knows, a previous Minister also suggested boards of management for secondary schools and any encouragement or help that I can give to establish them I will give. But the fact outlined in my answer still obtains.

Comment on this

Is the Minister afraid to step out of line?

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The Minister is afraid of nothing.

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Edward Collins Mr. E. Collins Fine Gael

Is the Minister aware that unless effective boards of management are set up in secondary schools there will be a lot of discontent among the teachers in those schools?

Comment on this

I am sure what the Deputy says is true.

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Edward Collins Mr. E. Collins Fine Gael

Is the Minister satisfied just to sit there and not try to change the system?

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I will not sit anywhere. I can tell the Deputy that.

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Edward Collins Mr. E. Collins Fine Gael

The Minister said he would not interfere.

Comment on this

I have already put myself on record, in answer to a previous question by Deputy Noel Browne, that I am in favour of certain representations.

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Edward Collins Mr. E. Collins Fine Gael

Unlike myself, who would also be in favour of the establishment of boards of management, the Minister is in a position to do something about it.

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Joseph Brennan An Ceann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

This argument can take place on the debate on the Estimate for the Department at some other time.

Comment on this

I hope it will be a discussion, a Cheann Comhairle, not an argument.

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Jim Mitchell Mr. Mitchell Fine Gael

Are we to take it that the Minister will not do anything to encourage boards of management in secondary schools? Will the Minister take any positive initiative in the matter?

Comment on this

If the Deputy would put down his own question and stop being wet nurse to other Deputies who put down questions I think I would have a chance of answering him.

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Edward Collins Mr. E. Collins Fine Gael

On a point of order, the Deputy is fully entitled to ask a supplementary question.

Comment on this

Certainly.

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Joseph Brennan An Ceann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

Deputies will agree that there is a limit to the number of permissible supplementary questions.

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Edward Collins Mr. E. Collins Fine Gael

I agree, a Cheann Comhairle, but let you put the limit on them and not the Minister.

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Joseph Brennan An Ceann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

I called Question No. 14 some time ago.

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