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Dáil

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Industrial Relations.

Jim Mitchell Mr. Mitchell Fine Gael

asked the Minister for Labour the steps he has taken in the past six months to improve the country's industrial relations problems.

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Jim Mitchell Mr. Mitchell Fine Gael

asked the Minister for Labour the industrial relations matters he is reviewing with a view to action, as distinct from those matters referred to in the Commission on Industrial Relations.

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Garrett Fitzgerald Mr. G. Fitzgerald Fine Gael

With the permission of the Ceann Comhairle, I propose to take Questions Nos. 2 and 3 together.

On many occasions since my appointment as Minister for Labour I have advocated publicly in the House and elsewhere, and privately in discussions with employer and trade union interests, that the procedures available for promoting good industrial relations and for preventing and settling disputes be utilised to the full, that communications and consultations between employer and employee be reviewed and improved, where possible, and that efforts be directed towards promoting a better working environment. I might mention also that my Department have already made a comprehensive submission to the Commission of Inquiry on Industrial Relations concerning many aspects of industrial relations. In addition to supporting this approach to industrial relations, I have had under constant review the facilities provided by the State, with a view to effecting any improvements which would attract the support of both sides of industry. As part of this ongoing review I have initiated moves to set up a fourth division of the Labour Court so as to enable that body to provide an even more speedy and flexible response to the increasing demands being imposed upon it.

I am also contemplating the appointment of additional rights commissioners.

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Jim Mitchell Mr. Mitchell Fine Gael

Is the Minister aware that there is a general impression abroad that he is sitting on his backside and doing nothing about the apparent chaos in industrial relations? Would he like to comment on that?

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Joseph Brennan An Ceann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

That is not a relevant question.

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Jim Mitchell Mr. Mitchell Fine Gael

The Minister has done nothing to allay the fears of many people——

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Joseph Brennan An Ceann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

The Deputy knows that it is not a supplementary question that is acceptable.

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Jim Mitchell Mr. Mitchell Fine Gael

I am asking the Minister which specific matters he is reviewing with a view to action to improve industrial relations.

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Garrett Fitzgerald Mr. G. Fitzgerald Fine Gael

I have given the Deputy some of the positive steps I am taking, but I will also indicate to him, and he should be well aware of it from his experience, that in industrial relations the principal participants, the people involved on both sides, should be using the agreed procedures, and they can be up-dated and replaced if necessary under the institutions set up by Acts of the Oireachtas. They are the things I am strengthening. The submission by my Department to the Commission on Industrial Relations is a very comprehensive and worthwhile one.

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Jim Mitchell Mr. Mitchell Fine Gael

I have asked the Minister for the specific matters he is considering in an attempt to bring order to the industrial relations chaos as distinct from the situation that obtained for many years. What is the Minister doing today and what will he do tomorrow to solve this problem?

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Garrett Fitzgerald Mr. G. Fitzgerald Fine Gael

As I have pointed out to the Deputy so many times, this problem existed long before I took office. During my time I have taken positive steps to improve industrial relations. I am continuing and will continue to strengthen the institutions established by the State which have served us well in the industrial relations field.

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Joseph Brennan An Ceann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

Question No. 4.

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Jim Mitchell Mr. Mitchell Fine Gael

This is important.

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Joseph Brennan An Ceann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

It may be important but I have decided we have had enough argument.

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Jim Mitchell Mr. Mitchell Fine Gael

The difference between now and when the Minister was in opposition is that there is a less strident Opposition on the question of industrial relations. I am inviting the Minister to tell me——

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Joseph Brennan An Ceann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

I have called Question No. 4. The Deputy is making a statement, which is not permitted.

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Garrett Fitzgerald Mr. G. Fitzgerald Fine Gael

I was amused to hear the Deputy referring to the weakness of the Opposition. That has never been so apparent as it is now. In other words, there is a weak one. I will say to the Deputy that in the field of industrial relations there is need for co-operation, using the procedures laid down to improve the services. That is what I am doing and will continue to do in co-operation with the employer and trade union interests.

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Jim Mitchell Mr. Mitchell Fine Gael

The Minister referred to earlier days——

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Joseph Brennan An Ceann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

I have called No. 4.

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Jim Mitchell Mr. Mitchell Fine Gael

Is the Minister contemplating any amendment——

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Joseph Brennan An Ceann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

Did the Deputy hear the Chair?

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Jim Mitchell Mr. Mitchell Fine Gael

I did. Is the Minister proposing any change in legislation?

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Joseph Brennan An Ceann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

Question No. 4.

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Garrett Fitzgerald Mr. G. Fitzgerald Fine Gael

I have answered the question so often but none of the Deputy's questions is relevant or substantive.

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Jim Mitchell Mr. Mitchell Fine Gael

Is the Minister referring the matter to the Taoiseach?

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Garrett Fitzgerald Mr. G. Fitzgerald Fine Gael

I have never heard one constructive comment from the Deputy, only destructive criticism all the time.

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Jim Mitchell Mr. Mitchell Fine Gael

I have asked the Minister to seek co-operation——

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Garrett Fitzgerald Mr. G. Fitzgerald Fine Gael

Constantly the Deputy has been trying to make political argument, political play, out of the sensitive area of industrial relations.

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Jim Mitchell Mr. Mitchell Fine Gael

I have been asking the Minister to come up with new legislation, with a new framework——

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Joseph Brennan An Ceann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

I have called No. 4 several times.

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Jim Mitchell Mr. Mitchell Fine Gael

I know. You have been very tolerant but does the Minister intend to do anything about our industrial relations chaos?

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Joseph Brennan An Ceann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

Will the Deputy please resume his seat.

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Jim Mitchell Mr. Mitchell Fine Gael

I am entitled to ask the Minister if he is doing anything and I am entitled to get a satisfactory answer.

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Joseph Brennan An Ceann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

If the Deputy does not resume his seat he will leave the House.

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Jim Mitchell Mr. Mitchell Fine Gael

I want to know——

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Joseph Brennan An Ceann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

Will the Deputy resume his seat?

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Jim Mitchell Mr. Mitchell Fine Gael

I will, while you are standing. It appears to the country that the Minister is on strike.

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Joseph Brennan An Ceann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

Will the Deputy resume his seat?

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Jim Mitchell Mr. Mitchell Fine Gael

The House will not mind if the Minister seeks publicity.

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Joseph Brennan An Ceann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

I have been more than tolerant with the Deputy. Question No. 4.

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