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Fairview case and request for a Ministerial statement

Summary

Woods sought a Justice Minister’s statement on the Fairview manslaughter and related robberies, arguing that the case raised public concern and questions about future law. The Ceann Comhairle ruled the matter could not be raised then and pointed to a future Criminal Justice Bill; Woods and other Opposition deputies challenged the ruling, including over a refused Private Notice Question. The Chair maintained the ruling and called the next business.

I should like to ask the Minister for Justice if he will make a statement about the action he plans to take——

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Thomas J. Fitzpatrick An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

The Deputy got a reply from the Chair on that matter and he may not raise it now.

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This is a matter of wide-spready public concern now. I believe that the manner in which this matter of the manslaughter in Fairview and the robberies involved——

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Thomas J. Fitzpatrick An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

The Deputy may not raise that matter now. He is being disorderly.

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This matter needs to be considered by the House in relation to future development of the law. People outside are worried——

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Thomas J. Fitzpatrick An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

The Deputy is being disorderly. I ask him to resume his seat.

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It is very serious when we cannot discuss the matter here.

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A question was allowed yesterday in relation to incidents in Assam.

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It appears that an incident in Assam may be raised here but not an incident in Fairview. We have to address ourselves to that problem.

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Thomas J. Fitzpatrick An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I am asking the Deputy to resume his seat.

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Perhaps the Chair would meet Deputy Woods and let us know how we can raise this matter in an orderly way. It is a matter of major importance.

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Thomas J. Fitzpatrick An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

With the greatest respect, I think Deputy Ahern should advise Deputy Woods. I am calling the next business.

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It is not as simple as that. It is a matter of the laws of this House being questioned outside. I only asked that the Minister for Justice would at least bring a report to the House and have the matter assessed so that we could being forward better law in future and make sure this kind of thing cannot happen again.

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Thomas J. Fitzpatrick An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

The Deputy asked the Taoiseach this morning about a new Criminal Justice Bill. If and when that comes before the House it will afford an excellent opportunity for Deputy Woods to put his questions.

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On a point of order, you are faced with a difficulty now. We have had much discussion here about reform of the House——

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Thomas J. Fitzpatrick An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

The Deputy is being disorderly and he knows it. I ask him to resume his seat. The Deputy is being persistently obstructive of the Chair. I am telling him to resume his seat.

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I should like clarification on a point of order. I appreciate that in the context of a Criminal Justice Bill one may discuss these points which are very important matters, but the problem is that so far as the public are concerned they would like a statement from the Minister.

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Thomas J. Fitzpatrick An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

That is not a point of order.

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It is the way in which we order our business in the House.

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Liam Fitzgerald Mr. L. Fitzgerald Fianna Fáil

I put down a Private Notice Question that was not allowed. Does the Chair appreciate that there is a crisis situation existing in my constituency in relation to that matter?

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Thomas J. Fitzpatrick An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

The Deputy got a ruling on that matter. He is being disorderly.

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Liam Fitzgerald Mr. L. Fitzgerald Fianna Fáil

Does the Chair appreciate that there is a crisis situation in my constitutency in relation to the matter——

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Thomas J. Fitzpatrick An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

The Opposition are being obstructive.

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Liam Fitzgerald Mr. L. Fitzgerald Fianna Fáil

Does the Chair appreciate the position in relation to that area? There is a crisis situation——

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Thomas J. Fitzpatrick An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I conveyed my ruling to the Deputy.

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You cannot be surprised if we on this side of the House are slightly puzzled by the fact that you permitted a Private Notice Question yesterday on events in India in the province of Assam and you refused two questions today.

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Thomas J. Fitzpatrick An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Deputy Haughey is now challenging the Chair.

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Yes, on this issue.

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Thomas J. Fitzpatrick An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

The Leader of the Opposition is bound by the rules of the House as is every other Deputy.

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I would like you to explain the discrepancy——

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Thomas J. Fitzpatrick An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I do not have to explain anything in this way to Deputy Haughey. If he wishes to come to my office——

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Now we know where we stand.

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Thomas J. Fitzpatrick An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Deputy Shatter to resume.

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I should like to have written replies to Questions Nos. 284 and 285. I am sorry to disappoint you, a Cheann Comhairle.

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Thomas J. Fitzpatrick An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

The remaining Questions will appear on tomorrow's Order Paper.

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