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Dáil
‹ Ceisteanna — Questions. Oral Answers. - Mentally Handicapped Persons.

Residential care waiting list in the North-West

Summary

The North-Western Health Board has 46 people waiting for residential care: 30 adults and 16 children. A new unit will provide 26 places, including 15 transfers from St. Conal’s; the Minister defended those transfers while agreeing to review whether people waiting in the community should receive greater priority.

asked the Minister for Health the number of mentally handicapped persons, adults and children, who are on waiting lists for residential care in the administrative area of the North-Western Health Board.

Comment on this

There are 46 mentally handicapped persons, 30 adults and 16 children on the waiting list for residential care which is maintained by the North-Western Health Board.

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What plans has the Minister to deal with that problem? I am sure the Minister is aware that the provision of residential care, particularly for the adult mentally handicapped, is serious. It is a situation existing throughout the health board areas and I should like to know if the Minister has any plans to deal with it.

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As the Deputy may be aware, in 1977 the health board put forward a proposal to the Department which involved the decentralisation of the facilities at St. Joseph's Hospital in Stranorlar, following which the building would be used as a residential centre for 100 to 150 adult mentally handicapped persons. Then the proposal to use St. Joseph's for mentally handicapped was accepted in principle by the Department depending on the progress that could be made with proposals for the provision of places for the elderly who were being accommodated elsewhere. Last December I gave approval for 15 posts to enable the first phase of the accommodation of the mentally handicapped to be commissioned. It is envisaged in relation to St. Joseph's that 26 residential places will be provided. It is intended that the initial intake of 11 persons will be from the community, thus reducing the number on the waiting list. A further 15 adults will be admitted from St. Conal's Psychiatric Hospital in Letterkenny, or from residential centres outside the region. I think the health board are making progress in relation to the 46 mentally handicapped persons.

Comment on this

How many new beds are being created?

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Twenty-six residential places will be provided. The initial intake will be 11 from the community and a further 15 adults will be transferred from St. Conal's in Letterkenny. That would take up the 26. At the moment there are 30 adults and 16 children on the waiting list for residential care.

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Are they in the community?

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Yes, they would be in serious need.

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Why is it necessary to give so many beds to people already in residential care? The priority must be those who are waiting in the community. Anybody who has seen those people in the community will appreciate the difficulty of looking after some of them and recognise that the problem is in the community and not in regard to those in residential care. Fewer than half of those going to this new unit are from the community.

Comment on this

There has been a very difficult situation in Donegal because up to now there have not been any special residential facilities for the adult mentally handicapped there. Traditionally, the adult mentally handicapped from County Donegal were placed in St. Conal's. One will appreciate the necessity for transfers from St. Conal's to St. Joseph's.

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While I appreciate that ideally the patients from St. Conal's should be transferred to a unit specially for the handicapped, would the Minister not consider that priority must be given to those in the community who are not, and never have been, in residential care? Because of this further development it will be possible to transfer patients from St. Conal's. Those in the community who need residential care should be given priority, but the Minister tells us they will not get even 50 per cent of the places.

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I agree they should be given priority, but the Deputy will share my view that it is intrinsically undesirable to have mentally handicapped persons in psychiatric hospitals. The advice we have been given says that 15 patients should be transferred to the new facility, although admittedly that will leave a substantial number in the community awaiting care.

Comment on this
Thomas J. Fitzpatrick An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

A final supplementary. We must go to the next question.

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The Minister suggested that I shared his view, but I do not.

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Thomas J. Fitzpatrick An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

That is a debate.

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There are approximately 70 patients in need of residential care in a unit for mentally handicapped and 25 are in St. Conal's.

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Thomas J. Fitzpatrick An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

A question please, Deputy.

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I ask the Minister to ensure that all the places go to the people in the community because they should be given priority.

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I will carefully investigate the situation again and ask the chief executive officer of the health board for his views. At the moment the ground floor space has become available in St. Joseph's for the mentally handicapped. I will communicate with the Deputy.

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