(Limerick West), Mr. Kitt and Mr. H. Byrne asked the Minister for Agriculture if the scheme for western drainage will be extended; and if an extra area of land will be included for drainage.

The western drainage scheme, which came into operation on 1 January 1979, provided for field drainage of 100,000 hectares. Because of the very large number of applications received, it was extended to provide for an additional 50,000 hectares up to 31 December, 1986. A number of applications at present on hands cannot be catered for within the limit of 150,000 hectares and consideration is being given to how best they can be dealt with. An extension would, of course, involve the commitment of substantial additional resources from the Exchequer and would also require the approval of the EEC which meets 50 per cent of the cost.

(Limerick West): Is the Minister aware that there is a backlog of about two years in dealing with applications? Is he further aware that an Exchequer injection into this scheme would repay itself one hundred fold?

Applications registered up to 30 September 1981 are the only ones that can be catered for at present. There are a few major problems involved. A survey was carried out in the last few months of 1982 to find out what kind of approvals were issued which had not been taken up. It appears there will be 9,000 applications under the 150,000 hectare level that cannot be dealt with. There is enough money in the Exchequer at present to keep the drainage programme going until the end of this year. After that it will be necessary to review it with a view to seeking aid from Europe.

(Limerick West): Would the Minister agree that a capital injection would repay itself one-hundred fold if the political will was there to give it?

Land drainage is always important. I am keeping the position under review.

How much money have the Government made available under the western drainage scheme? If an application is not made for a further extension of the acreage and for more money would we not be losing money from the EEC as we are under the farm modernisation and other schemes which are funded on a 50-50 basis by the EEC?

The initial application to Brussels for 100,000 hectares was regarded as a good scheme. In 1981 the Coalition had to go back for another 50,000 hectares. That is almost gone now. There is a lot of drainage work being carried out but until such time as we reach the limit we cannot go back to Brussels. I will look at the position at the end of the year.

I asked how much money the Government have made available.

I will communicate that information to the Deputy.

Is the Minister aware of the grave dissatisfaction among farmers who submitted applications subsequent to June 1981? They are most anxious to have these grants allocated in view of the fact that the inspectorate staff are marking out schemes for farmers who do not intend to go ahead with them. Will he do what he can to see if applications from progressive farmers who want to go ahead with drainage schemes can be taken out of order?

That would be a dangerous precedent. Part of the Deputy's argument is quite valid. In recent times my Department asked farmers participating in this scheme to dig the main drain. This would indicate their willingness to go ahead immediately. This has stopped the taking up of approvals without using them and as such has been successful. Only 60 per cent of the schemes have been completed and paid for. The other 40 per cent has to come in yet.

We have covered only ten questions. Any objections to doing 11?

Would it be possible to give outline permission to farmers under the western drainage scheme?

This was mentioned before. There are many farmers who received grants under this scheme and who now want to do more work. One could argue that these people are more likely to complete the second phase but it would appear inappropriate to allow them to do so when there are people waiting on the list for the first time.

The Minister said he would go to Europe for more money but he must be aware after the Taoiseach's sell out in Stuttgart that there is very little left for Irish farmers.

I hope there will always be money there for a good cause.

Would the Minister agree that having spent money on the reclamation of land in the west of Ireland there is no extra lifestock on the land? Does the Minister agree that it might be desirable to consider incorporating the western drainage package into a comprehensive farm development plan which would take account of whether farmers are able to stock the land and whether they have utilised the land to the maximum possible in its present condition? Would the Minister not agree that we should consider whether the farming enterprise is deserving of that kind of investment?

That is a big subject. There is no doubt that it would be beneficial if we could prove conclusively that money spent by the State resulted in extra production on farms. It is difficult to get a combined scheme that would work on all fronts at the same time. While one can argue that the western drainage scheme has not resulted in more livestock on the farms, we are poised for a reasonable increase and part of that will be due to the drainage of the wet lands.

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