Statistics on arrests and detentions
Woods seeks figures on arrests under the Offences Against the State Act, while De Rossa argues that arrest-to-court statistics would help assess the use and effectiveness of the Misuse of Drugs Act; the Ceann Comhairle repeatedly rules the other Act out of scope. Fennell says detailed statistics would divert Garda resources and that the position will be reviewed when the Criminal Justice Bill’s limited detention power comes into operation; De Rossa’s final question about the need for statistics receives no further reply.
Will the Minister tell the House the proportion of arrests and detentions under this heading made under the Offences Against the State Act? The Minister has told the House that the Act is being applied in such cases.
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The Minister in the course of her reply said that the Offences Against the State Act applies to the statistics.
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The Minister could tell the Deputy what she thought might win the next race at Cheltenham but it would not be in order. It would be very far out of order but not much further than the question the Deputy is asking.
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The question relates to statistics. Many of the people have been arrested under the Offences Against the State Act and I am asking the Minister for statistics in relation to that.
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The question deals with the Misuse of Drugs Act and I am not allowing the Deputy to put this question. I want to get some order into the proceedings.
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The Minister mentioned the Offences Against the State Act because that Act is used in most of these cases. This is ridiculous.
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In regard to the Minister's comments on the Offences Against the State Act, the Minister will be aware that one out of every nine arrests under section 30 of that Act——
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People are arrested under that Act and the Minister has said so. If the Ceann Comhairle is going to participate in the debate I suggest that he listen to the Minister's reply.
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I am relating my question to the query I put about the Misuse of Drugs Act. The question is about statistics.
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My question is not about that Act. The Minister referred to the use of that Act in the course of her reply and I am making the point that one out of every nine arrests under that Act result in a court case.
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I am making the point that there is not such information available on the use of the Misuse of Drugs Act. Does the Minister not consider that such information would be important in the use of the Misuse of Drugs Act so that we could know whether it is effective, whether the people taken in under suspicion are legitimately detained or whether the Garda have sufficient powers or whatever? Statistics of this type are important.
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It raises the difficulty of getting such detailed statistics. As a general proposition a compilation of statistics, even from a current base, is time-consuming work for the Garda Síochána.
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It involves a diversion of manpower both at local and central level from the primary duty of the force. This would be very detailed. The position in relation to statistics of arrest will be reviewed when the Criminal Justice Bill, which gives a limited power of detention, comes into operation.