Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Comptroller and Auditor General Staff.
- Comptroller and Auditor General staffing 4 speeches
Treacy asked why additional staff had not been provided and sought staffing and audit-backlog figures. Boland said six temporary posts had been sanctioned, the office was recruiting toward a total of 91 staff, and he could provide historical figures if asked separately.
Noel Treacy, John Boland
- Oireachtas committees reporting staff 4 speeches
Treacy complained that committees lacked enough reporting staff to record evidence from State and semi-State bodies. The Chair and Boland said committee staffing was separate from the question; Boland then returned to the Comptroller and Auditor General’s staffing position.
Noel Treacy, Thomas J. Fitzpatrick, John Boland
- Further Comptroller and Auditor General staffing 4 speeches
Treacy sought assurance against further staff reductions and asked about increasing staff. Boland said recruitment was under way to bring the office to 91, some staff would be freed by the transfer of audit work, and the situation was being monitored.
Noel Treacy, John Boland
asked the Minister for the Public Service the reasons that extra staff have not been made available to the Comptroller and Auditor General despite the fact that he suggested in his report for 1982 that extra staff were required, and if he is aware that shortage of staff is prohibiting this important State officer for expediting reports for other years, the action that he proposes to take and if he will make a statement on the entire situation.
Comment on this
As I indicated in response to a previous question, my Department have been in contact with the Office of the Comptroller and Auditor General about their staffing position.
While that office, in common with other parts of the Civil Services, have sustained a reduction in staff numbers, they are also losing a significant proportion of their work with the introduction of new arrangements for the audit of the accounts of An Post and Telecom Éireann.
To facilitate the work of the office pending that change, I sanctioned the creation, on a temporary basis, of six supplementary posts.
Comment on this
Can the Minister give the total number of staff available to the Comptroller and Auditor General for 1982, 1983 and 1984? Could he also say how far behind the appraisals are of the annual accounts for the last two years?
Comment on this
I do not have the information in respect of individual years but if the Deputy tables a question in relation to that, I can make the information available to him. The present staff levels appropriate to the office is a total of 91 and I understand that staff are in the process of being recruited.
Comment on this
I regret that the Minister does not have this very important information, as the buck must stop somewhere. There must be accountability for State expenditure through the provision of taxes and there should not be any reduction of staff in this vital area. Many Dáil committees are also short of reporting staff and when officers and executives of State and semi-State bodies come before those committees, there are not sufficient reporters to take factual minutes of evidence which could lead to the salvaging of some companies which are now collapsing.
Comment on this
As the Chair has said, the staffing of Oireachtas committees is a separate matter. The Deputy did not ask for the numbers employed in the Comptroller's office in years gone by and if he had I would have been more than happy to give him that information. It is important to point out that all sections of the Civil Service are bound by the requirements of the embargo. In the case of this office, as I pointed out in an earlier reply the audit of the work of An Post and Telecom Éireann which in comparative staff numbers up to the beginning of this year comprised one half of the Civil Service, that audit work is now completed with the creation of the two new boards which will have the effect of releasing a number of staff from their duties in connection with those audits for other audit purposes. Some months ago, to expedite the completion of the audit of the work of the former Department of Posts and Telegraphs, I sanctioned the recruitment of additional temporary staff for the Auditor's office. However, the Auditor saw fit not to recruit staff. Perhaps the situation is a little more complicated than might have been explained to the Deputy at an earlier meeting of a committee of the House.
Comment on this
Can the Minister assure the House that there will not be any further reduction of staff in this vital area of accountability? Has he any proposals to extend staff available to the Comptroller and Auditor General who has requested this on a number of occasions?
Comment on this
As I have pointed out, the Comptroller is at present in the process of recruiting additional staff which will bring the number to 91. Some of that staff will be freed from existing duties because of the cessation of the audit work in connection with the former Department of Posts and Telegraphs——