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Dáil
‹ Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Arterial Drainage.

Erne catchment drainage scheme

Summary

Leonard challenges the claim that the Erne scheme is uneconomic, citing cross-border studies and development benefits. The Minister says it was judged uneconomic in 1970, sees no evidence that this has changed, and cannot say when it might be considered; the exchange also disputes the scheme’s funding and cross-border value.

Can the Minister explain to me, if he has not yet received that report, how the Taoiseach could write to Cavan County Council one month ago telling them that the Erne catchment drainage scheme was of poor economic merit and then proceed to talk about its suspension?

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The Erne scheme is included in the national list of arterial drainage being undertaken. It is a priority scheme. A scheme for the southern reaches of that catchment out from and through Belturbet into Upper Lough Erne was prepared by the commissioners as far back as 1970. It was not proceeded with at that time because its costing was considered uneconomic. The catchment as a whole was the subject of a comprehensive study carried out in 1979 prepared for the Governments of the Republic and the United Kingdom and carried out in collaboration with the European Communities. One of that study's recommendations was that the drainage scheme of this part of the catchment should be undertaken. The House should remember that that was a recommendation only. Since then, with the resources available, it has not been found possible to proceed further.

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I am aware of all of that because I have been actively engaged in it over the past ten years.

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I know that.

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Actually there were three surveys carried out in that region concerning the drainage of the Erne catchment. The purpose in each case was economic development, North and South, relating to agriculture and tourist development. That was accepted by Ministers, North and South, by the British Minister and was submitted to the EC Commission. We were told a month ago that it is now of poor economic merit. Who took that decision?

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I think it is fair to say that the Government of 1970 took that decision.

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They did not.

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Indeed they did and it was found to be uneconomic at that time. I want to make that quite clear.

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There were no cross-Border projects of the EC in operation at that time.

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Is the Deputy asking a question? I acknowledge that, but what I am saying is that, in my opinion, it is still of uneconomic merit as it was in 1970.

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There are support funds available now——

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When this joint study was carried out there was a recommendation in this instance and they approved certain cross-Border schemes.

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Yes, the Blackwater scheme.

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However, that is vastly different from a recommendation. One scheme is now ready to start. By the criteria given by the Office of Public Works on the economic value of a scheme, there is nothing to prove that this is economic now. When it was examined in 1970 it was declared uneconomic and there is nothing to lead me to believe that anything has changed since then in spite of the recommendation. Having regard to existing commitments and pending the outcome of the review of arterial drainage, I cannot say when the possibility of carrying out such a scheme could even be considered. If there was plenty of money available——

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There is no money available.

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The Deputy indicated that there was plenty of money; it is a different story now.

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The Minister claimed that this scheme could still be examined. Is he aware that the Taoiseach, in his letter to Cavan County Council, scuttled cross-Border development and, by doing so, made a mockery of the concept of the Forum——

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Thomas J. Fitzpatrick An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

That is not a relevant question.

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The Fianna Fáil Government found that the scheme was uneconomic, so I do not think there is any hope of it being economic now.

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