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Dáil
‹ Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Public Expenditure Monitoring.

Budget Deficit and Proposed Spending Cuts

Summary

O’Kennedy cited the record deficit and a reported £50 million target, then sought a guarantee that monitoring would not bring further cuts to essential services. Dukes declined to answer, and the exchanges continued amid procedural interventions and personal barbs.

My question arise from statements made by Government spokesmen on this Cabinet decision. What the Minister presents as progress means that we have the highest budget deficit target and I should like to ask the Minister if that means that we have the highest budget deficit target already of £1,234 million and the highest on record in terms of GNP percentage. Will the Minister acknowledge that £50 million is the figure being mentioned in comments on the committee? Will the Minister agree that the only way the Government can reach that £50 million which is a consequence of his wrong calculations on unemployment and borrowing is to cut back on normal services, be they social welfare, health or otherwise that were originally sanctioned in the Estimates published——

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Thomas J. Fitzpatrick An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

That is a very general question that could not possibly arise here.

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It does. It is monitoring public expenditure.

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Thomas J. Fitzpatrick An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

It is about procedures here and the Deputy is now going into items of the budget.

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Would the Minister guarantee to the House that the monitoring would not involve further cuts, in addition to the savings of £28 million already announced since the budget on essential services, be they educational, social or economic?

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I feel that I would be in difficulty with you, Sir, if I were to answer that question. Deputy O'Kennedy is now raising as many hares as he possibly can because he has realised that his original question was ill-advised and ill-placed.

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Not a bit. I do not need a lecture from the Minister.

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The Deputy will get one every time he sticks his head out.

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The Minister should do his job.

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Thomas J. Fitzpatrick An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

We have only speeches and then lectures from the other side, but one begets the other.

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It makes life very difficult for you, a Cheann Comhairle.

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Thomas J. Fitzpatrick An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

It makes it impossible, Deputy. I would not like to see Deputy Flynn up here from his own place.

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I could handle them for you, a Cheann Comhairle. The Ceann Comhairle is not tall enough to look into the Minister's eyes.

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He can look me straight in the teeth.

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Sometimes.

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I should put my questions to the Minister for Defence. He is in charge of the Department now.

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