(Limerick West): A final supplementary. Would the using of the veto in these circumstances be justified because the three proposals affect our vital national interests?

I do not want to lead anybody astray and think that we will get away with a veto. It is very difficult to see how we would. One must remember the background to and reasons for the Commission's proposals. They are simply that the surpluses in the Community are unacceptably high. There are 690,000 tonnes of beef in intervention, over one million tonnes of butter, 15 million tonnes of grain. The Community have a genuine difficulty and a very serious budgetary problem. This is the Commission's proposal to ease that problem. It is not as straightforward as some might like to believe. We must look at the difficulties in which the Commissioner finds himself. Having said that, the discussions will take months and what finally emerges may be — and I think will be — considerably different from what has been proposed to us.