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Dáil
‹ Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Social Welfare Fraud.

Fraud breakdown and Jobsearch spending

Summary

Higgins sought a breakdown of the £4 million fraud estimate and questioned spending £11.5 million on Jobsearch to pursue a much smaller amount. The Minister did not address the programme directly; he reiterated that fraud was a small share of total expenditure, and invited a separate question about the cost of extra staff.

The Minister in his reply said that the figure for fraud was £4 million out of a total expenditure of £2.291 billion. Will the Minister publish a breakdown of this figure of £4 million in order to try to undo the stigma which is placed on social welfare recipients? Expenditure on unemployment related benefit last year was £700 million for which the Minister gave a figure for fraud of £1.782 million. He now proposes to spend £11.5 million on the job search programme, on going after that £1.5 million. Consequently, will he now reconsider the Jobsearch programme?

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Seán Treacy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

That is a separate question.

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I take the Deputy's point in regard to the size of fraud but as Deputy Mitchell said, there is a perception of widespread fraud. Very often, when the Department investigate these allegations they discover some reason for people applying for social welfare. For example, they may be working part time. All I can do is assure the House that in so far as fraud exists, we will pursue it. It is very important that we do. I can also assure the House that it is a very small figure in relation to the total.

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Can the Minister, in respect of the proposal to employ extra staff within his Department to pursue this perceived fraud, indicate to the House the numbers and the cost that this proposal would involve?

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If the Deputy tables a question about that matter I will reply to it.

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