We use Google Analytics to see which pages are read and how the site is used, so we know what to improve. This only runs if you accept. See our privacy notice for details.

Dáil
‹ Ceisteanna — Questions. Oral Answers. - Meat Plant Fraud.

Political interference in fraud investigations

Summary

McCartan alleges political interference and raises possible abuse of intervention stocks and beef substitution. O’Kennedy denies interference, asks for evidence, and says any irregularities should be reported so they can be addressed.

Will the Minister comment with regard to the level of political interference in the work of his agricultural officers and customs men in attempting to investigate suspected breaches of EC regulations? Have the Department ever investigated the question of the use of grading and intervention stocks and their abuse? Have his Department ever been involved in investigation of the substitution of prime intervention beef with cow and bull beef which is eventually then transported to Third World destinations——

Comment on this

The Deputy has some experience in court practice and he knows that one of the greatest travesties of justice is to indulge in major slander. I will take each of the Deputy's points. First, there is no question of political interference at any level and if the Deputy——

Comment on this

I will give the Minister instances.

Comment on this

——has any evidence of it he can give it to me. The Deputy has never done that. I insist that all my colleagues in the Department would guard against anything of that nature. If the Deputy has any indication of political interference he should let us know the details.

Comment on this

Consult your officers first.

Comment on this

You might consult us first before making that sort of public slander which is a disgrace from a professional legal person.

Comment on this

It is a fact and it is time the Department faced up to it.

Comment on this

Are you suggesting that I or any of my colleagues — because we are the ones politically responsible — have interferred politically?

Comment on this

If that is what has the Minister up on his high horse, I want to——

Comment on this
Seán Treacy An Ceann Comhairle Independent

Order, please. We cannot debate this matter today.

Comment on this

If the Deputy lets me have the information I will try to deal with any irregularities that are uncovered in relation to the use of stamps or whatever else. Irregularities are notified to the Commission and they are perfectly satisfied with our standards and procedures for notification.

Comment on this