Political interference in fraud investigations
McCartan alleges political interference and raises possible abuse of intervention stocks and beef substitution. O’Kennedy denies interference, asks for evidence, and says any irregularities should be reported so they can be addressed.
Will the Minister comment with regard to the level of political interference in the work of his agricultural officers and customs men in attempting to investigate suspected breaches of EC regulations? Have the Department ever investigated the question of the use of grading and intervention stocks and their abuse? Have his Department ever been involved in investigation of the substitution of prime intervention beef with cow and bull beef which is eventually then transported to Third World destinations——
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The Deputy has some experience in court practice and he knows that one of the greatest travesties of justice is to indulge in major slander. I will take each of the Deputy's points. First, there is no question of political interference at any level and if the Deputy——
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——has any evidence of it he can give it to me. The Deputy has never done that. I insist that all my colleagues in the Department would guard against anything of that nature. If the Deputy has any indication of political interference he should let us know the details.
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You might consult us first before making that sort of public slander which is a disgrace from a professional legal person.
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Are you suggesting that I or any of my colleagues — because we are the ones politically responsible — have interferred politically?
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If the Deputy lets me have the information I will try to deal with any irregularities that are uncovered in relation to the use of stamps or whatever else. Irregularities are notified to the Commission and they are perfectly satisfied with our standards and procedures for notification.