Organised crime and Garda resources
Kenny and Rabbitte challenged the Government’s record on organised crime, arguing that gangs were growing and Garda numbers and enforcement were inadequate despite promises of extra officers. The Taoiseach cited increased Garda and prison numbers, substantial spending, tougher laws and successful Garda work, while acknowledging witness intimidation and saying further resources or legislation could be needed.
The Taoiseach said in this House on 2 July 1996 that the time for rhetoric, slick sound bites and empty promises was past. He said it was time for action and for us to set out in a reflective and calculated way what we intended to do about organised crime. He said the time for reviews, reports and surveys was over; that it was time for considered action. He and his Government have been in office for six and a half of the seven years since those words were uttered. He has had the time and resources to follow them through.
The rule of law seems to have been abdicated and the rule of criminal gangs is worse than ever. We are now told that 30 warring gangs rule Dublin city and that the cost of a life or death is €5,000. We see trials collapsing because of the intimidation of witnesses and young men being brutally murdered as a warning to others. The Garda Commissioner in his recent attendance at the Joint Committee on Justice, Equality, Defence and Women's Rights said the force had not been given adequate resources to tackle organised crime. The Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform has failed in his duty to properly administer justice. His predecessor failed to deliver on his commitment to zero tolerance.
The Government, under the Taoiseach's direction, has been an abject failure in the administration of the oldest reason Government was formed, namely, the administration of justice. Will the Taoiseach take personal responsibility and show leadership in dealing with this direct challenge to him, his Government and the State? Organised crime must not rule this country. The Taoiseach must show personal responsibility and ensure the resources required by the Garda Síochána are made available to it to protect our citizens and administer justice.
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Crime is an enormous issue as reflected in the resources dedicated to tackling it in terms of manpower, technology, prison construction and infrastructural facilities. There have been major reductions in levels of crime in recent years, including this year. However, there are still criminal gangs operating in our society, engaging mainly in drug-related activities. The Government is conscious of this and has enforced some of the toughest laws ever, to the extent that those involved in civil liberties groups have been dubious about them. In spite of this, in the area of criminal law, among others, we continue to put laws on the Statute Book and provide the necessary resources to implement them.
For a number of months we have been putting in place manned Garda resources to deal with crime in parts of this city, the names of which there is no need to mention. Our efforts in Limerick city have received a huge amount of media attention. I sympathise with the family of Mr. Eric Leamy because of the difficulty in which they find themselves. I cannot talk about the issues involved in great detail but the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform will deal with them later today.
The Government discussed this matter at length today, as it has many times. We are not prepared to tolerate gangs, drug barons and other criminals. Since 1997 the Government has been tough in dealing with this issue. There is no need for me to give a litany of the extra resources, including policing resources, provided but we spent almost €1 billion. We will continue to be tough on crime. Some are trying to put it up to the Government and the people. We must and will take action against this.
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On 12 November 1996 the Taoiseach commented in this House: "Confidence in the administration of justice is therefore equivalent to confidence in Government." Does he believe the people of the country over which he presides have confidence in the way his Government administers justice? Does he believe the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform is a success? Is he not the Taoiseach who, with the Progressive Democrats, promised 2,000 extra gardaí on the streets? Do we not hear gardaí, from the Commissioner down, say every day they need extra resources to carry out the investigative work required to bring criminal gangs before the courts of the land? Were we not promised that administration of justice would be fundamental to the kind of Government the Taoiseach would run?
Last year saw the country's highest ever number of homicides. There were 13 gangland killings in the first half of this year. We can talk all we want about the resources being deployed – for six years we have been flinging money at problems but the action our citizens need is not being taken. People need to know that when they close their doors at night, they are safe. Gardaí themselves tell us they are not being given the resources they need. The Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform talks about all the laws he is introducing but they are not being effective. There are people in inner-city Dublin and parts of Limerick who are terrorised by organised crime on the streets. The Taoiseach must take personal responsibility for ensuring his Government pushes back the wave of crime about which he spoke in November 1996.
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The figures reflect this. We stated at the time that perpetrators would be brought to justice by the Garda, their cases would be dealt with expeditiously by the courts and there would be enough prison spaces to ensure their sentences were served. We set about bringing Garda numbers to a record high level and building the prisons that were not in place. We dealt with the revolving door syndrome. We brought forward the tough legislation necessary—
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—although many were dubious about it and wanted it to remain for only a short period on the Statute Book. We will continue to do these things and from wherever the threat comes, we will deal with it.
In Limerick and Dublin there are only a handful of problem areas. Resources have been dedicated. In some areas of Limerick whole estates have been closed down for weeks on end with everybody moving in and out being searched, at huge inconvenience to the law-abiding public. In parts of this city there have been enormous efforts by the Garda to deal with criminals and many have been apprehended. There is a deeply evil group of individuals—
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—who will stop at nothing to prevent others from giving evidence. I cannot say too much but we know what is happening.
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There are people who think they are above the law. It is for the Government to deal with this.
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If this requires additional legislation, we will introduce it. I hope the House will be helpful to us later when the Minister mentions some of our suggestions. As I recall, whenever tough legislation has been brought forward in the House, whether in the mid-eighties or the mid-nineties or more recently, people—
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We need tougher legislation. Legislation alone will not deal with the problem but we have provided the resources.
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I do not accept that these problems are the result of a lack of resources. In these areas we have pumped in enormous amounts of money and manpower to deal with crime levels.
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How can the Taoiseach reconcile his last statement about focusing on resources and sitting on serious criminals with the statement of Garda Paul Browne in October's edition of Garda Review: “There are days in Limerick city when there are no members available to go out on the beat”? I am quite happy for the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform to brief the Taoiseach if he wants to.
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Absolutely but it is a little late. Can the Taoiseach take issue with any single statistic mentioned by Deputy Kenny? Is this not a shameful legacy from the era of zero tolerance instigated by the previous Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform?
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Is everything Deputy Kenny said not true? Is this not a policing problem rather than a need for more laws? The problem is that existing laws are not being enforced. An Agreed Programme for Government, published in June 2002, states the Government stands for a society in which "people can feel safe in their communities, business and homes". The Taoiseach said Fianna Fáil in government would commit even more resources to tackling crime and breaking up the gangs involved in serious crime. They are multiplying by the day. According to a television programme last night, there are 40 gangs operating in this city alone. Is it not time to demonstrate political determination and leadership and take on the gangs which are controlling communities and forcing law-abiding citizens to live under their rule? What happened to the commitment the Government made to recruit 2,000 additional gardaí? A net amount of 51 gardaí have been recruited since June 2002. What kind of response is this to the problems outlined here?
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I wish it was as easy as that. Deputy Rabbitte says policing is the issue. For the case that sparked these questions in Limerick the Garda has put together an excellent prosecution case. It did a fine job, on which I congratulate it. The problem in this case was interference with witnesses. Let us not forget this. The article quoted by the Deputy, which the Minister has pointed out to me, goes on to state that so many resources were moved into this area in Limerick there were fewer resources available for law-abiding areas. The same has happened in this city.
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The Deputy asked about the extra gardaí. We have recruited 1,100 or 1,200 extra gardaí into the force and we have to pay for them every year. That is why almost €1 billion is spent on justice. We provided for over 1,000 extra prison places. We have brought in additional laws and we have to continue to do that. We cannot stop reviewing, reforming and examining the issues. If it is a question of laws, resources and the dedication of the gardaí, we will continue to do that. Over the past few years we have taken many of the criminals on our streets out of circulation. Many of them are in jail serving long sentences but a new breed is coming up, many of whom are very young, and we now have to deal with those issues. We are doing that and the taxpayer is putting in almost €1 billion a year to deal with it. We have to do that in a way that deals with a new type of young criminal who is vicious and extraordinarily ruthless. Some of them are quite close to subversives in this country.
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Sometimes when I hear the Taoiseach answering I do not know whether we live in the same country. I did not make a comment on how the book of evidence was compiled or the reason the Director of Public Prosecutions felt unable to give the direction other than the one he gave.
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I am talking about policing and the Taoiseach pledged 2,000 additional gardaí, but there are 51 additional gardaí. What is the purpose of the State if it is not for security, both external and internal? There are many areas of our cities under the reign of young thugs who are being directed by new criminal gangs which have been established and which are not capable of being dealt with by the gardaí because they either do not have not the manpower or the resources. This is the legacy of zero tolerance. What is the answer to the question about additional gardaí?
When the tragedy occurred concerning Veronica Guerin, the Government of the day decided to make whatever legislative change and resources were necessary to deal with the break up of the gangs that dominated this city at that time. The same is required here. If we could bring in an amendment to the Offences Against the State Act in 1998, following the atrocity in Omagh, that created the crime of directing terrorist crime, why can we not create a similar offence in terms of those who direct criminal conspiracies and combinations? That is the kind of measure that is necessary to deal with this problem. It is not being dealt with and what happened yesterday is shameful in any democracy, especially one governed by a Government that claims to be putting so much emphasis on the administration of justice and enforcement of the law.
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I do not want to divide this House on the issue of crime because every Member of this House wants to tackle crime, but I want to make three points, one of which is on policing. I was responding to Deputy Rabbitte who said this is an issue of policing. I said it is not in this case because the Garda put together a good case and saturated an area, but it is dealing with very vicious people, there is no doubt about that.
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On the issue of gardaí, we keep talking about an additional 51 and 100. There are 12,200 gardaí in the country. When we take on 1,100, as we have in the past few years, they do not go away.
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There are 12,200 in total and the college in Templemore is full so that number is being replaced. We are spending almost €1 billion on this area.
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Allow the Taoiseach to respond. There is only one leader of the Labour Party and that is Deputy Rabbitte. He is the only one entitled to ask a supplementary on this question.
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On the issue of criminal justice, Deputy Rabbitte said that we need more legislation, and I agree with that. I brought legislation through this House in 1998 and I stated at the time that we should have tougher legislation. I argued in this House in the mid-1980s that we should have tougher criminal justice legislation but, as always happens, people from the do-gooder society believe we should not have tougher legislation. Let us have tougher legislation, more resources and more gardaí. I agree with that but people should not get weak-kneed on a tough day. I believe in being tough on crime but there were people on the opposite side of the House who stood up here and opposed the provision of extra gardaí because they wanted more rehabilitation programmes – we can name those Members.