Government economic management
Enda Kenny attacks the Government’s handling of slowing growth, rising costs, tax shortfalls and the projected deficit, while pressing it on electricity prices and health-service pressures. The Taoiseach defends budgetary discipline, cites energy-market pressures and increased disability and health funding, and says reforms and staffing reviews are necessary.
It is about time that Members began to focus on the economic situation. For my part, having visited all constituencies in the past two and a half months, it is obvious that for the first time in years, the Fianna Fáil Party will be obliged to clean up a mess it created itself.
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——and the Taoiseach has presided over most of it for the last couple of years. Ireland faces a serious economic challenge as growth is projected to be slightly more than 1% this year. More than 200,000 people were on the live register in May and there is a shortfall in taxes of €3 billion, in addition to the unprecedented projected deficit of €5 billion. This means that businessmen, commuters and average workers face a period of great uncertainty and there is palpable evidence of a leaking of confidence from the economy.
The point is that people are anxious that the Government has no plan to manage the economy in a manner that would protect their incomes and livelihoods. The only evidence provided in this House of a plan in the past month was a comment from the Taoiseach in respect of the national development plan, in which he stated it was unlikely the Government would be in a position to spend the projected €252 million over the lifetime of the plan to provide information technology in schools to enable young people to measure up to the competition from abroad. From this perspective, it also is obvious that people are more than concerned and are becoming highly agitated that the Government does not have a plan to manage the economy through the challenges that lie ahead. Increasingly, people are becoming more concerned about the security of their jobs and incomes, the value of their houses and pensions, serious cutbacks in health and education and rising spending pressure in the Department of Social and Family Affairs. The Taoiseach stated yesterday he would take some action to curb the growth in current spending and that this would be brought about by adjustments. What action does the Taoiseach propose to take and when is it proposed to take it? Can the Taoiseach provide a guarantee that frontline services will not be chopped in any adjustments that are made?
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As for the management of the economy, the Government is focused on maintaining budgetary discipline. As I have said a number of times, the leader of the Opposition's critique is contradictory. On the one hand, he asserts the Government is not spending enough on services while on the other hand, he complains on a constant level——
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It is the same old story all the time.
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The Taoiseach is in government.
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His problem is that he does not have a policy. The Government will seek to maintain its budgetary parameters during the course of the year.
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Obviously the reduction in growth in the economy requires the Government to take account of the fact that its tax revenues will not be as buoyant as was otherwise hoped.
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Look at the money the Government wasted.
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The downside scenario and risks that were outlined in the Budget Statement have materialised in practically all cases. Ireland is not immune from those international developments. The Government will seek to ensure that it works within the budgetary parameters it has set itself, which will involve budgetary discipline. The Leader of the Opposition will have to make a choice as to whether he believes this is the approach or whether he wishes to continue to spend.
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It is the Taoiseach who must make a choice.
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The Taoiseach's predecessor used to read out a list of statistics from a black book every morning. The Taoiseach is repeating the mantra that one cannot have it both ways, by talking about both increased spending and cutbacks. The Taoiseach who faces this position was the Minister for Finance who presided over the veneer of perfection in the economy within recent years.
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It is coming home to roost at present. The Taoiseach has landed his Minister for Finance, who is absent, with an unholy mess. This is the first time for a long time that Fianna Fáil in government will be obliged to clean up a mess of its own economic making and it seems this will be extremely painful.
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Fianna Fáil has been obliged to clean up after Fine Gael on many occasions.
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Those who face a 30% hike in electricity charges cannot wait to see what kind of plan the Government will produce to manage the economy. The Government has put them in a position in which they are being stretched beyond the limit on a weekly basis. Every commuter faces rising petrol and diesel prices. Business competitiveness is drifting from us and small business and retail units are at the point of breaking down. There is no plan beyond the Taoiseach's words stating that we will manage our way through this.
I refer to the great monolith called the HSE, which the Taoiseach funded as Minister for Finance. A number of years ago, a report from Professor Drumm stated there were 2,500 too many people in the system. In recent weeks, another report has stated there are 1,000 too many in the system. The Minister for Health and Children, who also is absent from the Chamber, has stated it was premature to speculate as to the extent of redundancies or otherwise in the HSE. I wish to ask the Taoiseach a straight question in this regard. In the Taoiseach's consideration, are there sufficient numbers in the HSE or are there too many? We have very contradictory reports about this. There was an amalgamation of all the health boards involving 110,000 employees. As the Minister for Finance who funded this, and now as the Taoiseach who must preside over the "adjustments", as he calls them, are the numbers in the HSE too high or too low? Can he give the House a guarantee that we will not be faced with a series of practical problems for thousands of people because front line services are the first to get the chop due to the bureaucratic bloating that took place under his stewardship as Minister for Finance?
I listened this morning to the director of St. Michael's Hospital, who is being asked to make the choice about which children he is to leave out of his hospital.
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That is a scandalous position in 2008 and it has been created by the Taoiseach. I would like him to answer me about the HSE.
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I would once again like to speak to the Deputy about his overall budgetary position. The Deputy next to him claims that I spent too much money last year and this year. Now Deputy Kenny is claiming that we are not spending enough, so he must figure out where his party stands on this issue.
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Let us hear what the Government is doing.
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Who said that the economy could sustain a downturn? Who spent money on the basis of unsustainable revenue from property taxes?
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Deputy Bruton is completely out of order. This is Leaders' Questions, so others cannot ask the Taoiseach anything.
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The Taoiseach is doing a lot of shouting himself.
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Let me remind Members that this is Leaders' Questions. This means that the leaders of the parties ask questions and it is not for anybody else to intervene. An Taoiseach, without interruption.
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This is government by Opposition now.
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Thanks be to God we do not have that. The Leader of the Opposition raised some points about electricity. Rising costs in materials like gas, coal and oil on the wholesale markets have put suppliers under pressure. Since the latest price review last year, the cost of gas and oil has gone up by between 80% and 100%.
I understand that the amount quoted in the newspapers today is speculative and I remind the House that, in 1999, the Dáil established the Commission on Energy Regulation with a remit to oversee the operation of the electricity and natural gas industries. The CER operates independently of the Government and its functions are wide-ranging. It covers areas of security, safety and reliability of supply, as well as environmental protection. The regulator is also mandated by the Government to act in the interests of customers to ensure that prices charged are reasonable in all circumstances.
The process that applies to setting electricity tariffs is that the ESB will present its price case to the CER, something which is expected towards the end of July. Following a full review of that case, which includes an independent review of fuel prices, the ESB's own costs and its ongoing investment requirements, the CER will engage in a public consultation process. This will focus on what the CER views as a fair and reasonable cost to the industry. A final new tariff, if allowed, is expected to be announced at the end of August or early September. The process is in the interests of the customer and not the electricity industry. That is the position.
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What is the Government's position?
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Is that the Government's position, or the position of the CER?
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I am sorry, but I have just outlined the position.
The other question was about disability services. Since 2004, we have seen multi-annual budgetary commitments being made to the disability sector. These were instigated in my own time and I continue to show a commitment to them. We have seen a consistent increase in the numbers being provided with services. This year, we are providing 30,000 people with day services, 8,800 with residential care services and 7,200 with respite services. That is a large increase on what was the case some years ago.
The HSE is currently reviewing its overall financial position for the year. The roll-out of planned developments in disability services is being considered in that context. The Minister for Health and Children has been in communication with the HSE with a view to an early determination on the matter. The HSE agreed with the Department that the allocation of the funding for this year should provide 200 extra residential places for people with intellectual disability, 53 respite places, 450 day places, 80 residential places for people with physical and sensory disability and 250,000 hours of personal assistance and home support services, as well as a number of posts for providing assessment and ongoing interventions. This is mainly for children under five, which was the agreement under the Disability Act 2005 and with the disability sector. There is also a review of all this under the Towards 2016 discussions in the social partnership context.
There has been a considerable increase and there will continue to be services provided for people with disability. The Deputy continues to portray the HSE negatively in everything that it does. However, it is fair to point out that in its report on its activities for 2007, it exceeded the service plan levels of activity in many areas.
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What about the numbers? I asked the Taoiseach about the numbers.
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There are still problems, but it is not fair or accurate to portray constantly the necessary reforms in the health service as bringing about a continuous disimprovement in services. It is a narrative that continues all the time.
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No. This has been practically completed and it involves a very detailed assessment of how we can make sure that the configuration of personnel is more at the front line than in the administrative area. It also recognises, in fairness to those who work in support services, that the actual allocation of resources for people in those services is not totally out of kilter with international practice. There is room for people to reconfigure on the basis of industrial relations practice and of trying to do the job properly. Facile, simple solutions are not the way. Changes have been made by the HSE. There has been a range of real successes. There is an acknowledgement and understanding that the status quo is not sustainable going forward, that we are changing the service delivery model in the health service, that we must move more into the community and primary care area and that a changeover is taking place.
The HSE has confirmed that there has been a greater rate of increase in public health——
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I am trying to answer questions raised by Deputy Kenny. I can answer other questions when those Deputies are in a position to raise them as well.
The OECD confirmed that between 1995 and 2005, the second greatest rate of increases in health spending occurred in this country. We are applying €14.2 billion to the health service this year, which represents €9,730 for every taxpayer in the country. This represents practically the full take of income tax to the Exchequer revenue for this year. There is a considerable allocation of resources and we must work within those budgetary parameters to meet the situation to which the Deputy referred in the first part of his comments. The second part of the Deputy's comment tried to disregard that aspect.