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Dáil
‹ Leaders’ Questions.

Economic crisis and Government response

Summary

Deputy Kenny challenges the Government over rising unemployment, falling revenues and market collapse, accusing it of complacency and waste. The Taoiseach says the unprecedented international downturn requires difficult choices and that a comprehensive budget will be brought forward on 14 October.

Ba mhaith liom buíochas a ghlacadh leis an Taoiseach as ucht teacht anseo inniu. In the three months since we last met circumstances in the country have changed utterly. There have been thousands of job losses. Unemployment has increased by 42% to more than 300,000. Jobs are not being protected and are being outsourced to other countries. The tax shortfall has increased from €3 billion in July to more than €5 billion in September. The stock market is down by 45%. The property market has collapsed. A major pension problem is about to surface. In our health services we are now faced with an undetermined number of other misdiagnoses in cancer cases from Cork to Donegal. A report states that the Dublin Port tunnel is not safe. There is potential lead poisoning in water pipes in some areas in Galway city. The cost of living has risen by 50%.

Do these matters not concern the Taoiseach to the point where he should agree that on the first day this House meets after its summer break it should discuss the economy and the circumstances that now affect every person in the country? Does he accept the premise outlined by the Minister for Finance two weeks ago when he said that the people collectively chose this course of action? Does he agree that his Government now blames the people for the circumstances in which we find ourselves? Does he blame the people for the musings of Ministers, where one wants to increase the top rate of income tax, another wants to introduce domestic water charges and another wants to introduce third level college fees? The reasons are that the Government failed to heed the warning signs outlined by this party and others in making arrangements to deal with the situation that applies. While it is not to blame for the international financial crisis, it is to blame for the wastage of hundreds of millions of euro of taxpayers' money. Is the Taoiseach prepared to allow a proper debate over two days in the House or does he accept the premise outlined by the Minister for Finance that the people collectively chose this course of action?

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The Government is acting on this matter by bringing forward the date of the budget to 14 October, which is the most important decision that has been made. It is an indication of the seriousness of the intent of Government to take whatever decisions are necessary to meet, as Deputy Kenny has said, the new economic situation we now face. While I do not intend getting involved in a debate during Leaders' Questions this morning on the record of the Government, which we can defend, it is a question of facing up to the situation with which we are confronted. That is exactly what the Government is doing. I wish to make it clear that on budget day on 14 October we will have an opportunity to put forward a balanced and coherent plan which sets out the priorities for Government in the context of the new situation we face. We believe that is the responsible, right, appropriate and proper thing to do in the context of the challenges confronting us, quite apart from the international financial situation we face.

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It is an act of gross political cowardice on behalf of the Government to refuse to debate the circumstances that apply in the economy of the country on the first day the House meets after its summer recess.

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Deputies

Hear, hear.

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The Taoiseach said the Government is facing up to the situation in which we find ourselves and that on budget day on 14 October it will have a balanced and coherent plan. The Government produced a balanced and coherent plan, or so he said, in July when its projections for the deficit were €3 billion and it projected a 3% reduction in payroll across every Department.

I saw the Taoiseach yesterday in Cuffesgrange but I did not get a chance to speak with him because he was busy. I was amused to hear him say that we have to buckle down and cut out waste of public money. The reason I was amused to hear the Taoiseach say that is because the Comptroller and Auditor General's report points to dysfunctional budgeting in the HSE, for the Minister for Health and Children, a situation where 200 new Garda cars were held in storage for 15 months because they could not be used, that the Irish Prison Service entered into 60 contracts worth €18 million without seeking competitive quotes and payments were made in respect of Border allowances for troops ten years after the peace process concluded. Who was the Minister for Finance who presided over all this waste?

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Hear, hear.

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The Taoiseach has said the Government is facing up to the situation, yet he was the Minister for Finance who presided over this gross waste of public money. He had the temerity in Cuffesgrange yesterday to say we have to stop all this wastage of public money, bring in efficiencies and face up to the situation. In the first 120 days or so of his time as Taoiseach, can he name three actions he has taken to ensure his successor, who said he had the misfortune to be in the Department of Finance at this time, will not fall into the same financial slurry pit with further reports from the Committee of Public Accounts and the Comptroller and Auditor General of gross wastage of public money? Will he name three actions he has instructed as Taoiseach, that he was not able to do as Minister for Finance, to protect taxpayers' money and ensure they get value for what they pay?

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To answer the Deputy's question in regard of the Comptroller and Auditor General's report, to which he referred, and what I had to say about it yesterday, I made the point that the constitutional responsibility of every Comptroller and Auditor General under any Government is to point out where he feels there has been less than effective value for money or disposal of funds. It is in the context between raising revenue of €50 billion and expending over €50 billion, the total expenditure and tax raising powers of the Government is almost €100 billion. Any €1 million or €100,000 spent unwisely or not to best effect is obviously €1 million or €100,000 too much but the context in which we are discussing this is that level of expenditure and of tax raised.

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That is gross incompetence.

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That is just to make that point. In no way does it take from the merit or demerits of any aspect of any Comptroller and Auditor General's report under any Government and that will continue in the years ahead. Any lessons to be learned from it have to be learned. That is the simple point I was making. Deputy Kenny continually contends that the record of this Government is something that did not exist at all and that suddenly we now have the real situation.

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Complacency.

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The fact is that all forecasts made coming into this financial year were around the same as those made by the Department of Finance. We are in an unprecedented situation, much different from that envisaged by forecasters at the tail end of last year because of what has been happening, primarily in international markets. That is a fact.

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That is rubbish.

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The Taoiseach is a slow learner.

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What did the Taoiseach do?

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The downturn is taking place in every economy. What we must do and are intent on doing is to bring to the Dáil within three weeks a budget proposal that will set out clearly what the expenditure issues must be. With less revenue coming in it is clear economies must be made. What we must contend with are what our priorities will be as they relate to the capital programme and what the issues will be regarding the protection of tax breaks. That work is ongoing within Government now and has been for the past number of weeks. The issue will crystallise on that day. In the meantime, if Deputy Kenny wishes to engage in a three-hour debate on the economy, today and tomorrow, which he is entitled to request and is his prerogative, we will engage with him in such a debate.

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The Taoiseach is great.

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We have no problem in engaging with Deputy Kenny in that debate but the Government has a job to do.

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The job of Government now is to prepare for the budget which we will bring forward on 14 October.

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