It is proposed to take No. 12, motion re proposed approval by Dáil Éireann of the terms of the United Nations Convention against Corruption (back from committee); No. 12a, motion re statement of Estimates for the Houses of the Oireachtas Commission; No. 15, statements on European Council, Brussels; No. 4, Central Bank (Supervision and Enforcement) Bill 2011 — Second Stage (resumed); No. 5, Health (Provision of General Practitioner Services) Bill 2011 — Order for Second Stage and Second Stage; and No. 14, statements on the report by the interdepartmental working group on mortgage arrears (resumed) to be taken not later than the conclusion of Private Members' business and the order shall not resume thereafter.

It is proposed, notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders, that the Dáil shall sit later than 9 p.m. tonight and shall adjourn not later than 10 p.m.; Nos. 12 and 12a shall be decided without debate and any division demanded on No. 12a shall be taken forthwith; the proceedings on No. 15 shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion after 80 minutes and the following arrangements shall apply: the statements shall be made by the Taoiseach and by the main spokespersons for Fianna Fáil, Sinn Féin and the Technical Group, who shall be called upon in that order and who may share their time, which shall not exceed 15 minutes in each case, and a Minister or Minister of State shall take questions for a period not exceeding 20 minutes; and the Dáil on its rising today shall adjourn until 2 p.m. on Tuesday, 8 November 2011. Private Members' business shall be No. 27, motion re health services delivery (resumed), to conclude at 9 p.m. tonight, if not previously concluded.

There are four proposals to be put to the House. Is the proposal for dealing with No. 4, that the Dáil should sit later than 9 p.m. agreed to? Agreed. Is the proposal for dealing with Nos. 12, motion re proposed approval by Dáil Éireann of the terms of the United Nations Convention against Corruption and No. 12a, motion re statement of Estimates for the Houses of the Oireachtas Commission agreed to?

The proposal for dealing with No. 12a is not agreed to because——

I am sorry. You may not speak.

——no logistical provision has been made for the Technical Group. I know Standing Orders do not allow me to say this. That change is required. There is no point in my objecting to the proposal if I cannot say why. It is anti-democratic.

Taoiseach, there is an objection to the proposal for dealing with No. 12a. Do you wish to respond?

What is the objection?

There is no logistical provision for the Technical Group. My objection is regarding a logistical provision to allow the groups to function. There is no such provision and a political change is required. We believe a contingency should be included in the Houses of the Oireachtas Estimates.

If a Deputy is out of order do not switch on the microphone.

The Deputy should form a political party while she is at it.

I tried that.

Is the proposal for dealing with No. 12a without debate agreed to?

It is not agreed.

Is the proposal for dealing with No. 15, statements on the European Council, Brussels agreed to? Agreed. Is the proposal that the Dáil on its rising today shall adjourn until 2 p.m. on Tuesday, 8 November 2011 agreed?

It is not agreed.

It is unbelievable.

We are against holidays.

If I may say so——

Deputies, please.

Let Deputy Martin speak. Let the Punch and Judy show begin.

I find the proposal that the Dáil shall not sit next week extraordinary and incredible given the serious issues facing the eurozone.

Hear, hear.

There is no question but that we are in the midst——

This is a democratic Chamber. Members should allow people to have their say, without this cynical heckling.

Could we please have a bit of order?

It is a moment of unparalleled crisis in Europe. Everybody across Europe and the world is talking about it. From all we have heard today, there are no great signs that Europe will solve it either at today's summit or this week and that it will come up with a half-hearted answer which will not be comprehensive or resolute enough. It is imminent and it is at a level similar to the 2008 collapse. It is that serious. Any serious economic analysis of what is happening in Europe confirms that reality.

What does this House propose? It proposes to take next week off in the aftermath of such a serious situation facing the eurozone——

I thank the Deputy.

Normally, I would adopt a reasonable approach but I never accepted——

Can we have some order please?

I never accepted the bona fides of this Government when it spoke about Dáil reform, longer sittings and so on because all we have had is superficial and shallow change devoid of any substance. We have a few hours once a month on a Friday, even though we were told we would have Friday sittings. It is a joke and we should see it as such. It is not a serious attempt at reform.

The Deputy is allowed a short——-

The proof of the pudding is in the eating and that is why this motion is before us. The Government did not believe a word of what it said about Dáil reform in advance of the general election and it does not believe it now. How it can propose this in the midst of potentially the worst crisis facing the European Union and the eurozone is beyond belief.

I call Deputy Adams.

First of all——

Fianna Fáil could not save Ireland never mind Europe.

Does one genuflect in front of such a learned colleague?

I ask Deputy Martin to resume his seat.

The parties of the Deputies haranguing the suggestion that we meet next week consistently objected to these adjournments. I propose we meet on 1 November so that the Taoiseach can do his democratic duty by the people and by the Dáil and report on the European summit. It will also give us the opportunity to discuss the hand over of €700 million on 2 November and to stop that. Contrary to what the Taoiseach said that this is the responsibility of another Government, it is the responsibility of this Government so it is fair to the Dáil and it is democratic that we meet next Tuesday to deal with these two issues and to move on from there.

I call Deputy Boyd Barrett on behalf of People before Profit.

I am glad the Government finds the current crisis in Europe so amusing.

We find Deputy Boyd Barrett amusing.

I find Deputy Buttimer amusing as well.

Deputy Boyd Barrett should not mind the interruptions.

Amusement is not the reason we are here. Given the severity of the crisis ripping through the eurozone and the serious uncertainty about the outcome of this crisis, the very least the people of this country are entitled to is that the Taoiseach would report back after the European Council meeting to discuss the outcome and the implications of it.

Given that even the Taoiseach has acknowledged in previous discussions on the possibility of a significant write-down of Greek debt that this might open up some opportunities for Irish debt to be written down, although that has not materialised——

I thank Deputy Boyd Barrett. We are not having a debate.

——we also deserve a proper report on the outcome in regard to that issue.

Deputy Boyd Barrett should not mind the interruptions.

The Greeks got a write-down because they resisted. We have got nothing because we kowtowed.

As we approach the budget, and ordinary people in this country are quaking in their boots at the prospect of further austerity measures, surely we deserve a proper debate before next Wednesday on the Taoiseach's plan to hand over almost €0.75 billion to the bondholders of Anglo Irish Bank when he does not have to. Can we at least have a proper debate next week before he makes that momentous decision in advance of a budget about which people are very fearful?

Deputy Martin spoke about this situation being incredible and quite extraordinary and said that it reminded him of the collapse in 2008.

I did not say that.

The Deputy did.

I said we were on the verge of a financial collapse like 2008.

The Taoiseach should proceed without interruption.

The Taoiseach should proceed without interruption.

I am sure Deputy Martin shares my view that it is very necessary that the Oireachtas is able to find out what happened in the course of that crisis and why decisions were made in the way they were. I am glad Deputy Martin supports the call for a "Yes" vote in respect of parliamentary inquires being available to those elected by the people and who are accountable to the people, unlike in lots of other sectors.

Europe and the eurozone face the most serious crisis they have faced in a very long time.

And we are going on holidays.

The fundamental questions we are being asked to decide on Sunday are the question of Greece being let down, whether there is sufficient moneys in the €109 billion approved originally, how we leverage that under the European Financial Stability Facility and the facilities to do that and how one proceeds with governance. These are serious issues which will potentially have a serious impact on all the citizens of Europe, in particular those in the eurozone.

I have set out for the Members of the House a process by which we will lead up to the budget on 6 December, which has never been done before in the sense of openness and giving detailed——

Ráiméis.

As part of that process, I want Deputy Martin to understand that the Minister for Finance will be in Berlin on Wednesday, where there will be a meeting. I have called a Cabinet meeting for Tuesday to deal with the process we have set out in the run in to the budget. The Dáil will sit for 38 weeks until July next. However, I recognise that when I was on the opposite side of the House, I raised such matters. Therefore, the Dáil will meet at 10.30 a.m. next Wednesday and at 10.30 a.m. next Thursday for normal sittings and Deputy Martin will have his opportunity to have his say about everything.

Cancel your holiday, Micheál.

To be clear, the House will sit at 10.30 a.m. on Wednesday and not at 2.30 p.m. and we will not have the week off like we used to year after year when Deputy Martin's party was in Government.

Do I take it the motion is withdrawn?

Will Deputy Martin please resume his seat?

The Opposition's bluff has been called.

Those opposite are shell-shocked.

I take it that the motion is being withdrawn.

Shock.

You will have to do——

Could I have a bit of order, please?

You will not be going to Killarney for the week.

There is no debate.

If I travel, will the Government give me a refund?

Give the Irish people a refund.

The lads will have to shop around.

On a point of order——

Must I move the amendment?

Yes.

Will the Deputies get the placards ready?

The motion before the House is that the Dáil on its rising shall adjourn until 2 p.m. on Tuesday, 8 November. If the Taoiseach is changing that——

U-turn.

——he should move that the Dáil shall sit at 10.30 a.m. next Wednesday.

On a point of order, could we hear what is going on, please? I cannot hear.

Hold on a second. The House will be told in one minute. If people would only stay quiet, I could ask the Taoiseach to change the motion.

I propose an amendment to the motion, namely, that Dáil Éireann shall meet next Wednesday at 10.30 a.m. and next Thursday at 10.30 a.m.

Did Deputy Martin hear that?

Is that agreed?

No.

On a related matter, I cannot hear what is being said.

At times I cannot hear either because everyone is shouting.

The Ceann Comhairle is pointing his finger in our direction, but he should be pointing it the other way.

I just wanted to make that point.

I am trying to keep order. If people obey the Chair, we might get somewhere.

I propose that we meet on Tuesday, 1 November. It would give us the opportunity to discuss what the Government will do on Wednesday, as meeting on Wednesday would be too late.

The Deputy will not come in on Tuesday.

We are not in the business of deciding when we meet. It is for the Government to table a motion on the Dáil's sittings.

Hear, hear.

Deputy Adams objected to a motion on sitting on 8 November. That motion has been withdrawn and the Government is proposing that we meet at 10.30 a.m. next Wednesday and Thursday. Is that correct?

Yes.

Is the motion agreed?

No.

Therefore, I will now put the question.

"Caoimhghín, advise me quick."

Could I have some order? Honestly, the Deputies are not a crowd of schoolchildren. We are in a Parliament. Will Members please behave in a proper fashion?

It is all that side.

The proposal is that the Dáil shall meet at 10.30 a.m. on Wednesday, 2 November and at 10.30 a.m. on Thursday, 3 November.

Make it Tuesday and Wednesday.

Make it Friday.

Is the proposal agreed to?

No.

No man is an island.

Could we meet on Sunday to compromise?