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Rushed legislation and democratic scrutiny

Summary

Richard Boyd Barrett criticises the rushed passage of major legislation without adequate opportunity for Deputies to read or debate it, and seeks briefings on the reported ECB deal. Minister Quinn defends the Government, saying an unexpected Frankfurt leak required urgent action and promising to update the House when firm information was available.

What we can say with certainly is that it is profit before people all the way with this Government.

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Michael P. Kitt An Leas-Cheann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

We are on proposal No. 1 now.

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Last night and again this morning in the way the business of this House has been ordered the Minister has shown utter contempt for the democracy of this country and for its citizens.

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Deputies

Hear, hear.

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Incredibly last night a Bill of enormous proportions and significance for this country, which will echo for decades in the lives of the citizens of this country, was voted through when most Deputies had not even read the Bill. Is that not a shameful disregard of our democracy?

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Did the Deputy read it?

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There are school students in the Gallery today. Would Deputy Quinn, as Minister for Education and Skills, advise them to do their exams without having read the textbooks? I bet him he would not-----

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How does the Deputy know what-----

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-----but yet we voted through a Bill----

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The cheek of him - hypocrite.

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-----that is maybe the most important Bill any of us will ever vote on in our lifetimes and we were not even given a chance to read it.

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The Deputy has spent most of his life on TV3.

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Again this morning, we did not know what the Order of Business was, we did not know if there were going to be Leaders' Question and I have just got a text on my phone stating that RTE is reporting that a deal has been done and there is no provision for debate on that matter in the Houses of the Oireachtas. That is shameful.

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Eric J. Byrne Deputy Eric Byrne Labour Party

Who texted the Deputy?

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Is the Minister going to at least allow a discussion on the deal on which I believe the Cabinet is meeting at 2 p.m.? Will he give briefings to the finance spokespeople after that Cabinet meeting to let the elected representatives of this country know what deal the Government is doing with the ECB?

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I can understand why Deputies who have been recently elected to this House are very concerned about the way in which business was done over the past 48 hours. It was not of this Government's choosing but I will take no lectures from the Leader of the Fianna Fáil Party-----

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Deputies

Hear, hear.

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-----no lectures whatsoever in relation to riding roughshod-----

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The Minister gives lectures.

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-----over procedures when in this House on those benches we were here the night that it tied this country's future.

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Bernard Durkan Deputy Bernard J. Durkan Fine Gael

Hear, hear.

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That is not true.

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Where was the Deputy?

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There was no legislation on the bank guarantee at-----

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We debated it for three days here.

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The reality, for the information of all Members of the House on both sides, many of whom are in this House for the first time, is that we did not choose voluntarily to move the legislation that was moved at speed over the last 12 hours. Given the leak that obtained we had to move quickly. There was a leak out of-----

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-----Frankfurt. If the Deputies like, I will give them the answer. To protect the interests of Irish citizens we had to move quickly-----

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What about the jobs?

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-----with the measure that was always going to be part of the deal, otherwise, as many of the spokespersons have said on radio and in other parts of the media generally, we could not have drafted such a piece of complex legislation in the matter of hours, and all the Members know that. They are all here long enough to know that. The reason for the difficulty today, and I apologise for the inconvenience that it has caused for everybody, is that while there are reports in the media of a deal done, in principle, or a deal about to be done or whatever which way one wants to describe it, we have not yet received formal confirmation of precisely what is to be agreed and when we have-----

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Do you know what you want?

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-----that information the Government will resume, it will meet and decide what the appropriate response is and as soon as that happens we will then communicate with the House. The Whip who has been in contact with the Whips of the various other parties right through this day----

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He has not been.

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I have just been informed by Deputy Paul Kehoe that he has been.

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I got a telephone call but it was not from the Whip.

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If the Deputy keeps going that way, he will be a Minister.

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Michael P. Kitt An Leas-Cheann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

Deputies, please. The Minister has the floor.

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Notwithstanding the majority that this current Administration has, it is not our intention or to our benefit that we should discommode any Deputy in this House, whether he or she be an Opposition or a Government Deputy. They all have appointments and commitments. It is not in the interests of efficient or democratic Government that we discommode Members of this House because they are all committed.

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It has nothing to do with that.

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It is facilitating spinning.

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I apologise for the discommoding to all Deputies in this House. When we have hard and firm information it will be communicated to the House and I am reliably informed that there has been continuous sets of communications with the Whips of the various parties.

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On a point of order-----

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Michael P. Kitt An Leas-Cheann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

I will put the question on proposal No. 1.

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A Leas-Cheann Comhairle, on a point of order-----

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Division Carried

Question put

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Níl 35

Do you agree with this result?

Michael P. Kitt An Leas-Cheann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

The next proposal to put to the House is that No. 10, the proposed approval by Dáil Éireann of the Planning and Development (Planning Enforcement) General Policy Directive 2013, be decided without debate. Is that agreed?

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