Water Services Bill guillotine
Opposition Deputies object to limiting debate on the Water Services Bill, citing 47 amendments, rushed legislation and concerns over water privatisation and local-authority powers. The Tánaiste defends the timetable, says the Bill establishes a publicly owned State company, and offers broader agreement on scheduling stages; the heated exchange ends when the Ceann Comhairle runs out of time.
No. In recent days, we have raised the issue of the guillotining of Bills before Christmas as well as the Finance (Local Property Tax) (Amendment) Bill 2013 in the past two days. One of the key commitments in the programme for Government was that the Government would remove guillotines from non-emergency legislation. The programme referenced the significant use of the guillotine for non-emergency legislation.
No. 29 is on the establishment of Irish Water and giving it the capacity to install water meters and impose water charges in the next two years. There are various estimates as to when all of that will be done. Some have claimed that it will be post 2014. The Bill establishes an entity that makes water vulnerable to privatisation and other risks. The Tánaiste may claim that this is not the case, but I do not see the emergency dimension to this Bill. The Government must heed its own commitment in the programme for Government, given the farcical situation of the Finance (Local Property Tax) (Amendment) Bill 2013 and, before Christmas, the Social Welfare Bill and the property tax Bill. People were given no time to debate anything. In principle, we are against the Bill. No. 3 is a short Bill with which we have no difficulty.
I urge the Government to take the Dáil and its own commitment on guillotines seriously.
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Having rushed the property tax legislation through the Dáil, the Government is now minded to do the same in respect of Irish Water, metering, water charges and the potential privatisation of water.
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Allowing just two hours for the debate is unacceptable. Some 47 amendments have been tabled for discussion. The Government is clearly minded to push the legislation through irrespective of the debate. I do not understand why it believes that there could be a thorough debate in such a limited time. We object strongly to the use of the guillotine, another attempt by the Government to push controversial legislation through the Dáil.
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I wish to put on the record the Technical Group's opposition to the use of the guillotine on the Water Services Bill.
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Hear, hear. We are all against it.
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I wish to make two points. First, the Government is anxious that Deputies would have plenty of opportunity to debate Bills, but we require some co-operation from the Opposition. For example, I offered additional time last week in respect of the property tax issue, but it was turned down. On the issue-----
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The Tánaiste did not even show up for a vote.
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We wanted more than the measly two hours that the Government was offering.
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I thank the Ceann Comhairle. We have offered in the course of some debates additional time, which has either been-----
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Regarding the timetabling of Bills, my understanding is that the Government Whip has offered the Opposition-----
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-----the opportunity to timetable the different Stages of Bills. This is something that has been done in the Dáil previously. Where legislation needs to be worked through, the Minister handling the Bill and Opposition spokespersons agree to a certain amount of time for Second Stage-----
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It was not done in this case. Stop misleading the Dáil.
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The opportunity was not offered this time. That is misleading the Dáil.
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The Tánaiste should not mislead the Dáil.
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The Tánaiste is misleading the Dáil. It has not been offered.
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If the Opposition is willing in general to timetable the different Stages of Bills, the grouping of amendments and so on, the Government is open to doing so, but we must get through our legislative programme.
Second, this is clearly about politics, given the contributions of Deputies Martin and McDonald.
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Both Deputies referred to privatisation. This is a Bill to set up a State-owned company in which to vest the water resources of this country.
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The Tánaiste is codding himself.
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The Bill removes powers from local authorities.
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We have sold our water with our gas.
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Why not allow the local authorities to handle this, as they should?
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-----in criticising this legislation is to stand facts on their heads, then let us understand clearly what the Bill is about.
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The Tánaiste has made a career of standing facts on their head.
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In the same way we are selling off the forests.
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-----under a modern framework of a State-owned company. Nothing displays the bankruptcy of the Opposition more than describing a Bill that is about setting up a State company as some kind of privatisation.
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A point of order has been called.
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The Tánaiste has misled the House. The Chief Whip has not, in any shape or form, raised those issues with the Opposition.
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Question put: "That the proposal for dealing with No. 29 be agreed to"
Do you agree with this result?
Is the proposal for dealing with No. 3, Child Care (Amendment) Bill 2013 - Second and Subsequent Stages, agreed? Agreed. Is the proposal for dealing with the Autism Bill 2012 - Second Stage, tomorrow agreed to? Agreed. I am afraid we have run out of time on the Order of Business.