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Dáil

Order of Business

Items in this session
Simon Coveney Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine Fine Gael

It is proposed to take No.10, motion re proposed approval by Dáil Éireann of An Bord Bia Act 1994 (Levy on Slaughtered or Exported Livestock) Order 2013; and No. 3, Health (Alteration of Criteria for Eligibility) Bill 2013 - Order for Second Stage and Second Stage.

It is proposed, notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders, that No. 10 shall be decided without debate and that Private Members’ business, which shall be No. 98, motion re disability supports, shall also take place immediately after the Order of Business tomorrow and shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion after 90 minutes on that day.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

There are two proposals to put to the House. Is the proposal that No. 10 shall be decided without debate agreed? Agreed. Is the proposal for dealing with Private Member's business agreed? Agreed.

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I wish to raise a number of items of legislation with the Minister. The first is the social welfare and pensions Bill, which among other measures will propose changes to the distribution of assets on the winding up of defined benefit pension schemes, which is an issue of growing concern. I ask the Minister to indicate when he expects that Bill to be taken in this House. Second, when does the Minister expect the national economic and social development office (amendment) Bill to be brought forward?

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The national economic and social development office (amendment) Bill can be expected later this year. We expect the heads of the social welfare and pensions Bill to be published in April.

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I wish to ask about legislation that may emanate from the publication last week of the Mercer report. We have the revelation that Mr. Richie Boucher is on a salary of €843,000 and I wish to point out to the Minister that four years ago, his party had a right go at the former Minister for Finance, the late Mr. Brian Lenihan. Indeed, Deputy Richard Bruton-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

The Deputy is supposed to be asking about promised legislation. We are not going to go back over the issue of Mr. Boucher again.

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Deputy Bruton accused the then Minister for Finance of "bottling it" when he said that a cap of €500,000 on bankers' pay was adequate. Fine Gael, Sinn Féin and others all voted to reduce bankers' pay. The only people who did not vote to reduce it were Members of the Fianna Fáil Party. The Government has no problem with threatening public sector workers with legislation to reduce their pay, effectively tearing up the contracts of employment for front line workers, including gardaí, nurses-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

What specific legislation is the Deputy speaking about?

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When will we see legislation to reduce bankers' pay or is the Government bottling it, just as it accused the previous Government?

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Is there promised legislation in this area?

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No. That is my understanding.

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Does that answer apply to both parts of the question?

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This Government is bottling it, just like the previous Government.

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Deputy Doherty should stop grandstanding.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Deputies, please. We can not have conversations across the Chamber.

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Ciaran Lynch Deputy Ciarán Lynch Labour Party

The legislation being referred to by the Deputy is the Credit Institutions Stabilisation Act 2012. When that Act was passed, it put in place public interest directors in each of the banks that were recapitalised. I suspect that Deputy Doherty was not aware that this legislation actually deals with the matter.

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We are lucky to have Deputy Lynch here to explain matters.

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Ciaran Lynch Deputy Ciarán Lynch Labour Party

One of the public interest directors who was appointed to the banks actually-----

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I cannot believe the Deputy is referring to the public interest directors. That has nothing to do with this. That is a separate issue but a nice try.

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Ciaran Lynch Deputy Ciarán Lynch Labour Party

-----sits on the remuneration committee of Bank of Ireland and was the director who actually-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

That is a separate issue. We cannot deal with this on the Order of Business.

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Perhaps the Deputy could also raise the separate issue of upward only rent reviews, which he championed in opposition.

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Ciaran Lynch Deputy Ciarán Lynch Labour Party

-----passed the pay increase for Mr. Boucher. The question I put to the Minister is whether it is time for the Government to consider amending the Credit Institutions Stabilisation Act-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

That is a matter for another day.

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Ciaran Lynch Deputy Ciarán Lynch Labour Party

-----to ensure that when the public interest directors are making such decisions, they get sanction from Government.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

That is not related to promised legislation, Deputy Lynch. Deputy Boyd Barrett please. I remind Deputies that we are dealing with promised legislation.

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Ciaran Lynch Deputy Ciarán Lynch Labour Party

I have put my question very simply and would like an answer.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

We are supposed to be dealing with promised legislation. We cannot have debates on whether Acts will be amended. If a Bill is on the list, we talk about it.

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Ciaran Lynch Deputy Ciarán Lynch Labour Party

With respect, a Cheann Comhairle-----

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The Deputy should raise it at his parliamentary party meeting.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I am abiding by the Standing Orders of the House. Deputy Lynch is the Chairman of an Oireachtas committee and he knows all about Standing Orders. I ask the Deputy to resume his seat.

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Ciaran Lynch Deputy Ciarán Lynch Labour Party

This has nothing to do with Standing Orders. I am simply asking the Minister, with regard to the Credit Institutions Stabilisation Act 2012, which put in place public interest directors-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I know all of that.

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Ciaran Lynch Deputy Ciarán Lynch Labour Party

Is the Government giving consideration to amending this legislation?

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

We do not ask about things that are under consideration. We ask about promised legislation.

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Ciaran Lynch Deputy Ciarán Lynch Labour Party

Yes, but two minutes ago, during Leaders' Questions-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

That is a different issue.

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Ciaran Lynch Deputy Ciarán Lynch Labour Party

Fair is fair.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

That is a different issue.

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Ciaran Lynch Deputy Ciarán Lynch Labour Party

I ask Deputies to be quiet and listen. They might learn something.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

This is the Order of Business.

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Ciaran Lynch Deputy Ciarán Lynch Labour Party

I ask the Ceann Comhairle to hear me out and give me a bit of latitude.

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Is Deputy Lynch going to deal with upward only rent reviews too?

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Ciaran Lynch Deputy Ciarán Lynch Labour Party

Under Leaders' Questions a few moments ago, the Minister, Deputy Coveney, said an examination is taking place within the banks with regard to payments. If the banks do not take the issue of payments in hand, the Government will examine the matter further. I would imagine, if the Government is doing that, it will look to the aforementioned Act and-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

No, Deputy.

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Ciaran Lynch Deputy Ciarán Lynch Labour Party

-----the role of the public interest directors.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I will reply if the Deputy resumes his seat. We are on the Order of Business, which deals with promised legislation, that is, legislation that has been promised by the Government. Deputies can ask about when such legislation is likely to be introduced. Standing up and asking if the Government proposes to amend legislation that is not on the list is not in order under the Order of Business. I suggest the Deputy tables a parliamentary question and if he gets a reply to the effect that the Government is proposing to introduce new legislation, then he will be entirely in order on the Order of Business to raise it. Does Deputy Lynch understand that?

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

This is getting out of hand. I ask Deputy Lynch to resume his seat. I am quite clear about this and it applies to everybody in the Chamber. I have made a ruling and am moving on to Deputy Kelleher.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I am sorry, Deputy Boyd Barrett.

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As we know, the protests of the Cypriot people have led to their Government rejecting the troika plan to raid their savings.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

We know all that, Deputy. What legislation does the Deputy wish to ask about? We are not having another speech.

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This arises under the Order of Business.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Under what heading?

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If events, such as those mentioned this morning-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Deputy Boyd Barrett, please resume your seat and do not try to cod me. Sit down please.

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I wish to ask about the possibility-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Please resume your seat.

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-----that Cyprus might pull out-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I ask that the Deputy's microphone be switched off. Resume your seat, Deputy.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I am not dealing with the Cypriot matter now. We have already dealt with it and it has nothing to do with promised legislation.

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Is the Government going to allow time for a discussion-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Not on the Order of Business.

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-----of this major issue in the next few days?

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

The Deputy should have asked Deputy Halligan to raise the matter on his behalf during Leaders' Questions.

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The matter could be raised through the Whips.

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I do not wish to be out of order but-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I hope not. I am getting a bit tired of it.

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I accept that. In the context of Dáil reform, today there were 85 questions-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Dáil reform does not come into it. The Deputy should refer to his Whip.

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The Deputy should do better than that. What does it have to do with legislation?

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The Deputy was going great. Has he something else to speak about?

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I need clarity on the issue. There was a shameful exercise today in the Dáil.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I heard the Deputy on the monitor and the Dáil had to be suspended as a result of his behaviour.

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No, it was a result of the Government's behaviour.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Resume your seat.

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I just want clarity.

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The Deputy's party never did anything like it.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

You did not listen to the Leas-Cheann Comhairle. Resume your seat.

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I want to know, in the context of promised legislation-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

No. What promised legislation?

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-----and Dáil reform-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

It has nothing to do with Dáil reform. I call Deputy Ó Snodaigh.

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Dáil reform requires legislation-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Resume your seat.

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-----and it must address the number of questions being tabled by the Fine Gael press office.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I call Deputy Ó Snodaigh.

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Everybody knows it was shameful. There were 85 questions written-----

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He is critical because we are working too hard.

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The Deputy was well able to ask questions about County Leitrim.

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-----by the Fine Gael press office.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Deputies on the Government side should stay quiet.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Deputy Ó Snodaigh, I ask that at least one Deputy be in order.

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I will try to be, although sometimes it is difficult.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Thank you. It would be a breath of fresh air to hear somebody ask about promised legislation.

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We have reached a new point.

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I cannot live up to that.

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It is a new one.

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Promises were made before the last election and in the programme for Government to address an area requiring legislation that would protect jobs. Accessorize and Monsoon will close ten of 18 stores-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Deputy-----

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There is a reason behind this.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

That may be so but to what legislation is the Deputy speaking?

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There are 269 jobs at risk.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

The Deputy should resume his seat.

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I will refer to two pieces of legislation.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Please switch off the Deputy's microphone.

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I will outline the two pieces of legislation, if the Ceann Comhairle bears with me.

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Just one question, a Cheann Comhairle.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I allowed the Deputy to raise a Topical Issue matter today and he could have used the time to raise this matter. He is not having two bites of the cherry.

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This is not a case of having two bites of the cherry. The landlord and tenant Bill is one promised piece of legislation, with the other being the land conveyancing Bill.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

When will we have the landlord and tenant Bill?

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Does the Government intend to have a referendum to deal with upward only rent reviews? We will have referendums in the autumn, which would be an ideal time to have a referendum to deal with the issue. The advice of the Attorney General to the Government has not been published so nobody can understand why the Government-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Resume your seat. When will the Bill be before the House?

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-----does not want to comply with the programme for Government.

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The landlord and tenant Bill will be published before the end of the year. The land and conveyancing Bill was approved last week.

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Last week, I asked the Taoiseach if the Minister for Health had received the report on the death of Ms Savita Halappanavar and it was indicated that he had not. Why is that so? The draft report was initially leaked-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

What is the question?

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------and we were told we would have it in two weeks. Why have we not received it?

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

We do not deal with "why" on the Order of Business. Is there any information on the publication of the report?

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My understanding is that the Minister concerned does not yet have the report. When he does, he will give a copy to the family first before bringing it to the Cabinet. He does not have a finalised copy of the report.

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The Ceann Comhairle will be delighted to know that I will be in order.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Thanks be to God.

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It is very disappointing to see members of the Garda Representative Association, which represents rank and file gardaí throughout the country, protesting outside the Dáil today.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

What piece of legislation is the Deputy speaking about?

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The question relates to the Croke Park II agreement or promised legislation that the Government is threatening to introduce if there is no agreement. I want confirmation-----

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About a threat, apparently.

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There is promised legislation.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

The Deputy will get no confirmation if there is no promised legislation.

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It is threatened.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

What is it?

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The Government has indicated it will introduce legislation.

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There is no name on it yet, but it is promised.

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It is the "intimidation of public sector workers Bill".

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I do not need any help from Deputy Kelleher.

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The Deputy's party never did anything like that.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Deputy Kelleher is taking on a major role as rabble rouser in this Dáil.

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The Government has said that if there is no agreement, it will legislate.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Is there promised legislation?

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It is disappointing to see gardaí having to protest outside Leinster House.

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They could be brought in with a family pass.

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If legislation is required following the-----

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-----introduction of the Croke Park II agreement, we will update the House when it happens.

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It will be required either way.

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Bernard Durkan Deputy Bernard J. Durkan Fine Gael

I have a question on legislation to prevent repeat offending in the criminal world. The bail Bill has been on the books for a long time and was promised during the time of the previous Government. When is it likely to come before the House and have the heads been fully approved and discussed by the Cabinet? A housing crisis exists in the country so will it be possible to indicate when the housing Bill will come before the House?

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As a result of the size of the housing legislation, it will be split into three Bills. The first will be introduced in the next session and we hope the other two will come before the end of the year. There is no date for the bail Bill as the heads of the legislation have not yet come to the Cabinet.

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The Minister is aware of the concerns of many citizens living in newly built estates that have yet to be taken in charge by local authorities. Some of these estates require a relatively small amount of work to be completed to allow them to be taken in charge by the authorities. There seems to be a log-jam at local authority level-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

About what?

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This concerns the taking in charge of these estates.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

What legislation are we talking about?

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It is the housing Bill. When is it intended to bring that forward as many people are affected by lights and sewerage services being turned off?

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There is no need for extra legislation in that respect.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Many of these questions can be dealt with by way of a parliamentary question. This is the Order of Business.

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With respect, they filibustered the questions process today, as Deputy Kelleher attempted to deal with.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Please resume your seat.

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The Deputy's party never did that.

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I am trying to be helpful.

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The Deputy is one to speak about filibustering. I just answered the question on the housing Bill. The answer would be the same.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

He probably was not listening. When is it due?

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The housing legislation will be split into three parts, with the first of those to be introduced in the next session. We hope the other two Bills will be introduced before the end of the year.

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The CAP agreement was raised during the Topical Issue debate, although I was not around at the time. Will the Minister advise if there will be statements in the House?

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We had a Topical Issue debate on the matter today with Deputy Ó Cuív.

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The red carpet was rolled out all day.

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We began statements on the CAP last week and the debate is open-ended. That is a deliberate process, and we had approximately 90 minutes of debate before the CAP negotiations last night. I hope to continue the debate for as long as people wish, as it is a significant policy issue and the House must contribute to it.

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