Order of Business
- Order of Business 13 speeches
The House agrees the sitting timetable, a staff break, the handling of the Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill, and Private Members’ business despite opposition to the guillotine.
Enda Kenny, Seán Barrett, Micheál Martin, Gerry Adams, Timmy Dooley
- Health information and universal insurance legislation 2 speeches
Micheál Martin asks when health information and universal health insurance measures will be published; the Taoiseach expects the health information Bill and publicly funded GP scheme later in the year.
Micheál Martin, Enda Kenny
- Adoption information and tracing Bill 2 speeches
Gerry Adams seeks publication and debate dates for the adoption information and tracing Bill; the Taoiseach cites complex constitutional issues and expects it before year-end.
Gerry Adams, Enda Kenny
- Bethany Home redress decision 7 speeches
Gerry Adams presses for the Government’s decision on an apology and redress scheme for Bethany Home survivors before the recess. The Taoiseach will ask the Justice Minister to update him and convey Adams’s concerns.
Gerry Adams, Seán Barrett, Enda Kenny
- Immigration Residence and Protection Bill 2 speeches
Derek Nolan asks when long-delayed immigration legislation will address conditions and delays affecting children in direct provision; the Taoiseach says it awaits Committee Stage.
Derek Nolan, Enda Kenny
- Anti-social tenants and housing legislation 5 speeches
Dessie Ellis asks whether forthcoming housing legislation will address the Supreme Court ruling that has restricted local-authority action against serious anti-social tenants; the Chair rules the matter out of order.
Dessie Ellis, Seán Barrett
- Primary care centre locations 1 speech
The Minister of State outlines the assessment of Laytown-Bettystown and North Drogheda as potential primary care centre locations under the PPP programme.
Alex White
- Publication of child protection reports 4 speeches
Robert Troy asks why a child protection report has remained unpublished for months. The Taoiseach says one report was a pilot and another was cleared by Cabinet, while Micheál Martin criticises the delay.
Robert Troy, Enda Kenny, Micheál Martin, Frances Fitzgerald
- Call to the next speaker 1 speech
The Chair calls Deputy Mattie McGrath, linking this procedural turn to the following Order of Business exchange.
Seán Barrett
- Referendum spending legislation 6 speeches
Mattie McGrath asks whether the Government will address the Supreme Court finding concerning Government spending during the children’s rights referendum campaign; the Chair directs him to proposed legislation.
Mattie McGrath, Seán Barrett
- Criminal procedure Bill 8 speeches
Mattie McGrath asks when the criminal procedure Bill will reform pre-trial processes. The Taoiseach cannot provide a publication date, while confirming that the electoral amendment Bill has progressed.
Mattie McGrath, Seán Barrett, Enda Kenny
- Immigration reform amendments 9 speeches
Michael McNamara seeks publication of Committee Stage amendments to the Immigration, Residence and Protection Bill and implementing legislation for the EU reception directive. The Taoiseach gives no date but says the Minister will update Members.
Michael McNamara, Seán Barrett, Enda Kenny
- Consumer and competition Bill 2 speeches
Pat Deering asks about progress on a statutory grocery-sector code of conduct and the consumer and competition Bill; the Taoiseach reports that detailed drafting issues remain under consideration.
Pat Deering, Enda Kenny
- Criminal records information system Bill 2 speeches
Bernard Durkan asks when legislation enabling international criminal-record exchanges will be introduced; the Taoiseach expects publication later in the year.
Bernard Durkan, Enda Kenny
- Voting age reduction legislation 2 speeches
Michael Healy-Rae asks when the voting age will be reduced to 16; the Taoiseach says the Constitutional Convention’s recommendation will be discussed the following week, with implementation targeted by the end of 2015.
Michael Healy-Rae, Enda Kenny
- Criminal justice corruption Bill 2 speeches
Thomas Broughan asks about the corruption Bill and the unresolved Priory Hall situation; the Taoiseach says the Bill’s heads are before committee and Priory Hall remains tied up in court.
Thomas P. Broughan, Enda Kenny
- Consumer Bill media merger provisions 2 speeches
Willie O’Dea seeks progress on the consumer and competition Bill, particularly its media-merger provisions. The Taoiseach says two Departments are still considering detailed questions from Parliamentary Counsel.
Willie O'Dea, Enda Kenny
- Constitutional Convention reports 2 speeches
Charles Flanagan asks whether the Convention’s reports can be debated before the recess; the Taoiseach confirms that the first report will be discussed the following week.
Charles Flanagan, Enda Kenny
It is proposed to take No. 19, Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013 - Order for Report Stage and Report and Final Stages; and No. 20, Residential Tenancies (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill 2012 - Order for Report Stage and Report and Final Stages.
It is proposed, notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders, that the Dáil shall sit later than 9 p.m. and shall adjourn not later than midnight; Report and Final Stages of No. 19 shall be taken today and the proceedings thereon shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion at midnight by one question which shall be put from the Chair and which shall, in relation to amendments, include only those set down or accepted by the Minister for Health; and in the event a division is in progress at the time fixed for taking Private Members’ business which shall be No. 111, motion re distressed mortgages (resumed), Standing Order 121(3) shall not apply and Private Members’ business shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion after 90 minutes.
Comment on this
There are three proposals to be put to the House. Before I put the first proposal, I ask the Taoiseach, now that the sitting is being extended to midnight, that a second break be included. The staff and those who service the Chamber only have a break for one hour from 1.30 p.m. to 2.30 p.m. It is not reasonable to ask people to work continuously for 12 hours. Can it be arranged that we will have some break in the debate this evening for the staff?
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The Whip will deal with that matter. I take the Chair's point in respect of the staff. We agree with it.
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Is it agreed that provision will be made? Agreed. Is the proposal that the Dáil shall sit later than 9 p.m. and shall adjourn not later than midnight agreed to? Agreed. Is the proposal for dealing with No. 19, Order for Report Stage and Report and Final Stages of the Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill 2013, agreed to?
Comment on this
It is not. We have consistently opposed the Government's consistent use of the guillotine in dealing with a range of legislation. A substantial number of amendments have been submitted to the Protection of Life during Pregnancy Bill 2013 and given the enormous interest in the Bill, irrespective of one's perspective, the decision to conclude the debate with one vote, even if all of the amendments have not been reached or debated, is the wrong one. Those who wish to move amendments should be facilitated in doing so and having them debated. What is proposed is that they be wrapped in one vote at the conclusion of the debate. That is not right and I oppose the proposition.
Comment on this
I commend the Ceann Comhairle on organising a break for the staff. We are not going to push this issue to a vote, but I would like to make a point that the Government is now engaged in the practice of imposing the guillotine. There are 160 amendments to this Bill, but I know all of the arguments have been rehearsed and all of the issues debated. However, in principle, we need to review how we do business in the Dáil because of the frequency with which the guillotine is being used. This is not a good way to do business. Deputies who submit amendments should have the right to speak to them and have them debated.
Comment on this
I understand an extensive number of amendments have been submitted. As many of them are connected to each other, they have, therefore, been grouped. Amendments can be discussed individually or in groups and can be voted on in groups. Therefore, I am not sure of the point being made by Deputy Micheál Martin. Very few Bills in the past 40 years have been subject to such extensive discussion, consultation and debate in the House. I suggest to the Deputy that what he should do is allow the procedure proposed to get under way. I understand many of the amendments will be dealt with very quickly, but I cannot predict the future in that sense.
I suggest to Deputy Martin that, while we take into account what he and Deputy Adams have said, we let the process start and see how it runs. I have no objection to extending the time again tonight, if that is necessary. We want this dealt with because we have set targets for individual pieces of legislation, and this has drifted for quite a long time. There has been very extensive consultation about it. The House was to rise at 10 p.m. and we have extended that for a further two hours so groups of these amendments can be dealt with. I suggest that we let the process commence and see how that works and how far we get. I do not have any difficulty in dealing with it for a further period but I am going to get rid of it tonight.
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Is the Taoiseach suggesting we would remain for a further period?
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You are noted as dissenting. Is the proposal for dealing with Private Members' business agreed to? Agreed. I call Deputy Martin on the Order of Business.
Comment on this
With regard to the health information Bill, the Future Health document stated it would have been published by the end of the second quarter of 2013. The Taoiseach might indicate when we can expect publication of that Bill.
With regard to the universal health insurance legislation and the White Paper that was promised on that, I would point out that, under the Dutch model, to which the Taoiseach was very attached during the general election, there has been an increase of up to 46% to date to the Dutch taxpayer following the introduction of universal health insurance. The Taoiseach might indicate whether the Government still intends to introduce the set of legislative proposals that would underpin the introduction of a universal health insurance system to Ireland, particularly given that our own private health insurance system is now in a very precarious and difficult situation, and some analysts are suggesting it is in a death spiral given the numbers leaving the health insurance sector. When does the Government intend to publish the White Paper on universal health insurance and when can we expect the health information Bill to be published?
Comment on this
The Minister for Health is at the Estimates committee this morning. The health information Bill is due for later this year. The publicly funded GP scheme is also due later this year as part of the approach towards universal health insurance.
In respect of the private health insurance business, the Minister and the Department have been engaged with the private health insurers over the past week to ten days. I understand they have made substantial progress in regard to contributions from the sector in respect of reduction of costs and all of that area. The Minister gave an interim briefing to Cabinet yesterday and I expect that those discussions will conclude, hopefully, in the next couple of days, with results in the interests of the taxpayer. When that is reported to the Cabinet by the Minister, we will advise the House on the outcome.
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Ba mhaith liom ceist a chur faoi reachtaíocht atá geallta agus dhá ábhair eile. Will the Taoiseach clarify the position of the adoption (information and tracing) Bill? This was to provide for an information and tracing service to applicants seeking information about adoptions on a statutory basis. Will the Taoiseach tell us when the Bill will be published and when it will be debated in the Dáil?
On 25 June, the Taoiseach said he would come back within a fortnight and report to the Dáil on the conclusion of the Government's consideration of an apology and redress scheme for the small number of surviving men and women of Bethany Home. Can he confirm it is still his intention that he will report to the Dáil this week?
Finally, I want to mention the decision to put the construction of the Narrow Water bridge on hold. Given it is such a vital infrastructure project for the Louth, south Down and south Armagh region, it is an issue that requires urgent attention by the Government.
Comment on this
On the adoption (information and tracing) Bill, there are a number of very complex constitutional issues involved. The Minister would expect to have the Bill before the end of the year but I am not sure how completely the range of constitutional questions that arise can be dealt with. The Bethany Home issue is still under consideration by the Minister for Justice and Equality.
I have seen the figures in respect of the Narrow Water bridge. Obviously, the local authority, Louth County Council, is not in a position to fund the over-run on the estimate. This matter is the subject of some discussion between the county council and the consultants involved on the tender prices but it seems exceptional in terms of the scale of the tender submitted and, indeed, the next one beyond that. It is something we have supported very strongly, as a House, and something we would like to see brought to fruition. However, in these circumstances, there is obviously a serious complication.
Comment on this
Sorry, Deputy. I cannot debate that issue. I have been liberal but it is not a matter for the Order of Business.
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I want to raise the issue of Bethany Home.
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I understand the Minister for Justice and Equality is still considering this. The Taoiseach gave a commitment to come back in a fortnight and, while we cannot hold him to that as he is, of course, very busy, this involves a small number of people who are mostly elderly and frail. I wonder if it could be done before the recess.
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I will ask the Minister for Justice and Equality. It is a different situation than applied in the case of the Magdalen laundries and that is why it is still being considered by the Minister. I will bring the Deputy's interest and the comments he made a fortnight ago to the Minister's attention. There has been a lot going on in the drafting of justice legislation in the past period. The Presidency is out of the way, but it was a big responsibility in terms of time consumption. I will ask the Minister to advise the Deputy.
Comment on this
The programme for Government commits to a review of the immigration system. On upcoming legislation, the Ombudsman today warned of serious concerns about children in direct provision asylum centres. It is an issue I have raised in the House on many occasions in regard to the long delays that families and children experience. When I raise it in the House, I am told that this issue will be sorted by the Immigration, Residence and Protection Bill which is due to come before the House. However, it is always six months away, and it has been six months away for two and a half years now. Can we please get some urgency behind this Bill and can we be told when it will be published?
Comment on this
I understand the Bill is awaiting Committee Stage and that it is a matter for the committee to decide when it can be taken. That is the delay at present.
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The Taoiseach is aware local authorities across the country are dealing with anti-social tenants. People and communities are being terrorised. A recent Supreme Court decision has brought a halt to actions against some of the worst and most serious cases. Section 62 of the Housing Act needs to be reviewed and legislation brought forward, and the Minister accepted that-----
Comment on this
It is section 62 of the Housing Act. I wonder will this issue be included in the upcoming housing Bill.
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I know there are three separate Bills but I want to know when that particular one will be coming up. This is very serious. Local authorities have their hands tied at the moment.
Comment on this
I propose to take Questions Nos. 477 and 478 together.
The delivery of primary care infrastructure is a dynamic process and must take account of changing circumstances including the feasibility of implementing the delivery of the centres by means of lease, direct-build or PPP. GP engagement and agreement to deliver services from primary care centres is central to the delivery of the necessary infrastructure. Laytown-Bettystown, Co. Meath and North Drogheda, Co. Louth are two of the 35 potential locations for primary care centres for development by way of PPP as announced in the July 2012 Infrastructure Stimulus Package. The HSE is currently finalising sites and assessing GP engagement at each location to determine their interest in participating in the primary care centre development. While it is not possible, at this time, to give start and completion dates for any of the individual 20 potential locations, the best estimate is that these primary care centres will be completed by late 2016.
Comment on this
Last week, we learned that a report on child neglect in three jurisdictions remained unpublished by the HSE for 14 months. The Minister, Deputy Fitzgerald, confirmed in response to a parliamentary question that she was in receipt of the Government's independent rapporteur's report on child protection since January of this year.
We are waiting almost seven months for that report to be laid before the Houses of the Oireachtas. Will the Taoiseach indicate when it will be done?
Comment on this
I understand that was a pilot report. The other report to which the Deputy referred was cleared by Cabinet yesterday.
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It should not take seven months to be cleared.
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There is a well established precedent in regard to the publication of such reports, as Deputy Martin knows well.
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I am ready and willing, a Cheann Comhairle. My first question relates to the electoral (amendment) (referendum spending and miscellaneous provisions) Bill. I am glad the Minister for Children and Youth Affairs is here as I raise this issue. We had a unanimous Supreme Court decision last November regarding the misspending of money by Government in the campaign leading up to the referendum on children's rights. The Bill we are discussing later today relates to a Supreme Court decision taken years ago.
Comment on this
There has been no debate in this House on the issues arising from that unanimous decision of the Supreme Court. Does the Government intend to ignore it?
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The Government is simply ignoring it.
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I have a second question, if the Ceann Comhairle will allow it.
Comment on this
Perhaps I will not ask it, after all.
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I want a proper answer to both questions, not one half-answer and the second question ignored. When is it proposed to publish the criminal procedure Bill to provide for the reform of pre-trial processes? There are people throughout the country whose mortgages are in negative equity. Houses are being repossessed and people being beaten up in their homes-----
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People are aghast at what is happening. When will the Bill be introduced to bring some clarity to court procedures?
Comment on this
I do not have a date in respect of the criminal procedure Bill. I understand Second Stage of the electoral (amendment) Bill to which the Deputy referred was ordered last Friday.
Comment on this
Members of the Government have welcomed recent progress on immigration reform in the United States. However, the answer my colleague, Deputy Derek Nolan, has been given on the issue of immigration reform in this State is exactly the same as the one I received six months ago. It is very difficult to take seriously the Government's commitment in this regard.
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When will the Government's Committee Stage amendments to the Immigration, Residence and Protection Bill be published? If it were serious about immigration reform, particularly the reform of direct provision, the Government would sign up to the European Union's directive on the reception of immigrants.
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That is a separate issue in respect of which the Deputy should put down a parliamentary question.
Comment on this
It is not a separate issue, it is a question.
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When will implementing legislation be published to enable the State to sign up to the reception directive? When will the Government's Committee Stage amendments on the Immigration, Residence and Protection Bill be brought forward? These are two concrete questions and I look forward to two concrete replies from the Taoiseach.
Comment on this
There are certain issues which are in order on the Order of Business and certain issues which should be dealt with by way of parliamentary question. The Taoiseach should reply to what is in order.
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I am not sure of the extent of Government amendments to the Immigration, Residence and Protection Bill that are required to be published following the consultation process which took place. These are serious matters and it is not simply a case of saying they will be published by Wednesday week or whatever. I cannot, at this time, indicate the extent of the amendments that will be introduced or the date on which they are likely to be published. As I understand it, the relevant committee is anxious for the Bill to proceed to Committee Stage. The Minister will update Members in due course. I am sure that in the context of that Bill, there will also be an indication of the decision in respect of the directive to which the Deputy referred.
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There has been rumour and speculation for many years regarding unfair practices within the grocery sector, in the context of the uneasy relationship that exists between producers and large multiples in this country. A statutory code of conduct is long overdue to regulate the conduct of the grocery sector. Will the Taoiseach indicate the progress that has been made on the consumer and competition Bill?
Comment on this
The Office of the Parliamentary Counsel provided revised drafts of the provisions of that Bill which relate to the amalgamation of the National Consumer Agency and the Competition Authority on 28 June. In addition, the office sent a memorandum to the Department regarding certain legal issues on 21 June. A response to most of the issues raised was conveyed back to that office on 8 July.
In regard to the media merger provisions in the Bill, the Office of the Parliamentary Counsel raised a series of very detailed questions on 25 June which are being jointly considered by the Department of Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation and the Department of Communications, Energy and Natural Resources. The Bill is at a very advanced stage, but publication might not happen before the Dáil rises for the summer recess on account of the extensive and very particular range of issues raised by the Office of the Parliamentary Counsel.
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In the context of the ongoing debate on fraud and the difficulty of proving it in this jurisdiction, when is it intended to bring the criminal records information system Bill before the House? I understand the heads of the Bill, which will facilitate exchange of criminal records between member states of the European Union and other designated states, have already been published. There is an urgent need to bring it forward in the current climate.
Comment on this
When will legislation to implement the Government's proposal to reduce the voting age from 18 to 16 years come before the House? Foróige has welcomed the announcement in this regard, but there has been no clarification of the timeframe involved.
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This was one of a series of recommendations by the Constitutional Convention. The Whips have arranged for a discussion on the first report of the convention next week, which includes this particular issue. Yesterday the Government accepted in principle the recommendations made and, in line with our undertaking in this regard, we are giving an indicative timeline for implementation of the end of 2015.
Comment on this
Will the Taoiseach indicate the status of the criminal justice (corruption) Bill? As we approach the end of the session and enter into the third year in which there has been no resolution for the residents of Priory Hall, is there any prospect of an announcement in that regard? Given that the Taoiseach has a personal interest in the matter, will he undertake to give clarity on the matter?
Comment on this
The heads of the criminal justice (corruption) Bill have been referred to the Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality. I inquired this morning about the ongoing situation in regard to Priory Hall and am sorry to tell the Deputy that it is still tied up in the courts. I hope it will begin moving a little more rapidly toward a conclusion for the people involved.
Comment on this
I seek further clarification on a matter raised by one of the Taoiseach's backbenchers, namely, the consumer and competition Bill. It is a very important Bill, as the Taoiseach has often acknowledged, dealing as it does, among other issues, with media monopolies. The Taoiseach has indicated on several occasions that it would be dealt with in this session. With only five sitting days remaining, what is the position in this regard?
Comment on this
As I outlined to Deputy Pat Deering, the Office of the Parliamentary Counsel raised a series of very detailed questions on the media merger provisions of that Bill on 25 June, which are being considered by the Department of Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation and the Department of Communications, Energy and Natural Resources.
Comment on this
I understand the Government has considered the various reports from the Constitutional Convention, which has been operating successfully since January. Will there be an opportunity before the summer recess to consider the content of those reports?
Comment on this
As I stated in response to Deputy Michael Healy-Rae, there will be an opportunity next week to debate the first report of the convention. Yesterday the Government approved in principle the recommendations of the convention, with an indicative timeline to deal with those recommendations, and possibly others, of the end of 2015.