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Dáil
‹ Order of Business

Magdalen redress payments

Summary

Mary Lou McDonald presses for progress on GP cards and on payments and health and pension supports for Magdalen laundry survivors, prompting a dispute over whether the process is delayed. The Taoiseach says only verification and validation of paperwork remain.

My question is about the health (provision of general practitioner services) Bill. I understand this is the legislation in which the provision of GP cards to children aged five years and under will be contained. When will that be introduced? Will that also contain provisions for the same extension to people with long-term illness? The Taoiseach will recall that this promise was made in his Government's first budget.

A separate issue that I have raised with the Tánaiste on a number of occasions relates to the Magdalen laundries and the redress scheme. The women are still waiting; none of them has seen a shilling. I have correspondence from both the Minister for Justice and Equality, Deputy Shatter, and from the Tánaiste indicating that there is some logjam in respect of agreement on pension and health supports. The clock is ticking-----

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That term is not used in the letter.

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That is what it says.

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Where does it say logjam?

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It says that payments cannot commence until decisions have been made on the other recommendations which include pension and health supports.

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Where does it say logjam?

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

We cannot debate it now.

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It is a logjam. Urgency was promised and many of these people are elderly.

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The Deputy made that up.

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The Tánaiste should give over.

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The Tánaiste made up a lot of stuff himself.

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When will the women get their payments? When will the issue surrounding health and pensions be resolved? That is what the women want to know.

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And the supports for education.

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Really, it is very unedifying for somebody in the office of Tánaiste to be so petty and childish at this hour of the day.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

This is the Order of Business and we will move on to a debate on the budget. Members should stick to matters that are suitable for the Order of Business. We cannot have debates.

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We cannot have lies either.

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The Deputy is sensitive on the issue.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

As the Tánaiste has confirmed in respect of the Magdalen women, there is no difficulty-----

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A Cheann Comhairle, the word "lie" was used. That is outside Standing Orders.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

-----other than the verification-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Will the Deputy please withdraw the word "lie"?

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I withdraw it. It is untruths.

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Bernard Durkan Deputy Bernard J. Durkan Fine Gael

Misleading information.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

There is no difficulty other than verification and validation of the paperwork that has been submitted. Some of it is complex, but there is no problem. The Deputy's use of the non-existent word "logjam" is irrelevant in this.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I call Deputy Bannon.

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I also asked about the general practitioners Bill.

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