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Dáil
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Order of Business

Summary

The House agrees arrangements for the day and the following morning, including the late sitting, freedom of information motion, and replacement of HSE statements by other business.

Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

It is proposed to take No. 13, motion re Standing Orders 90, 97A, 97B, 97C, 99, 107A, 107B, 107C, 107D, 107E, 107F, 107G and 107H; and No. 1, European Parliament Elections (Amendment) Bill 2013 [Seanad] - Second Stage.

It is proposed, notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders, that the Dáil shall sit later than 9 p.m. tonight and shall adjourn on the adjournment of Private Members' business, which shall be No. 137, motion re Health Service Executive, and shall be taken on the conclusion of No. 13 or at 7.30 p.m., whichever is the later, and adjourn after 90 minutes, if not previously concluded; the proceedings on No. 13 shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion at 7.30 p.m. tonight and the following arrangements shall apply: the opening speech of a Minister or Minister of State, Deputy Emmet Stagg, and of the main spokespersons for Fianna Fáil, Sinn Féin and the Technical Group, who shall be called upon in that order and who may share their time, shall not exceed five minutes in each case, the speech of each other Member called upon shall not exceed five minutes in each case and such Members may share time and a Minister or Minister of State shall be called upon to make a speech in reply which shall not exceed five minutes; and the following arrangements shall apply in respect of No. 1: the opening speech of a Minister or Minister of State and of the main spokespersons for Fianna Fáil, Sinn Féin and the Technical Group, who shall be called upon in that order, shall not exceed 15 minutes in each case and such Members may share their time, the speech of each other Member called upon, who may share their time, shall not exceed ten minutes, and a Minister or Minister of State shall be called upon to make a speech in reply which shall not exceed five minutes.

The following business shall be taken tomorrow after Oral Questions: No. 14, motion re freedom of information, and No. 5, Industrial Development (Forfás Dissolution) Bill 2013 - Order for Second Stage and Second Stage. The proceedings in respect of the motion re freedom of information shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion after 25 minutes and the following arrangements shall apply: the opening speech of a Minister or Minister of State and of the main spokespersons for Fianna Fáil, Sinn Féin and the Technical Group, who shall be called upon in that order and who may share their time, shall not exceed five minutes in each case, and a Minister or Minister of State shall be called upon to make a speech in reply which shall not exceed five minutes.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

There are four proposals to put to the House. Is the proposal for the late sitting agreed? Agreed. Is the proposal for dealing with No. 13 agreed? Agreed. Is the proposal for dealing with No. 1 agreed? Agreed. Is the proposal for dealing with No. 14 agreed?

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Are we agreeing tomorrow's Order of Business?

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

That is because of the business before the Order of Business tomorrow.

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So the Industrial Development (Forfás Dissolution) Bill is the morning's business?

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

After the motion re freedom of information.

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Replacing the debate on the Health Service Executive.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Yes.

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So we are deciding that now?

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

Yes.

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We wish to oppose the taking of that business. According to the Order of Business, the following business shall be taken tomorrow-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

No. The question is whether the proposal for dealing with No. 14, motion re freedom of information, be taken tomorrow is agreed to. We are discussing the arrangements.

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The arrangement is to have the debate tomorrow.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Yes, but the motion states, "...freedom of Information shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion after 25 minutes", etc.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

If I might help the Deputy-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Tomorrow, we will start with Question Time at 9.30 a.m. The Order of Business will not be until later in the day. Between the end of Question Time and the Order of Business tomorrow, there will be a filler of business. For this reason, we must order it today. That is what we are doing now.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

It is also that a motion takes precedence over statements. That is why it has to be put that way.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Is that all right?

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

Fianna Fáil, the Deputy's party, had a motion in on health. We had the statements on health issued for tomorrow. So, its motion takes precedence over the statements and that is why it has to be done this way.

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With respect, when the Whips met last week, we discussed the business for the week, which was to include statements on the HSE service plan. However, when Fianna Fáil subsequently tabled a Private Members' motion, as was our right, on health, the Government moved to remove the statements from the Order Paper that had been agreed. This is the point that Deputy Kelleher is making. It has now been replaced by the Industrial Development (Forfás Dissolution) Bill. That is certainly not in keeping with the discussion that we had at the Whips' meeting.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I am sorry, but we are discussing the taking of the motion re freedom of information after parliamentary questions at 9.30 a.m.

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Yes, but we are also discussing-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

The Order of Business will be taken in the normal way tomorrow after that. This is only to give notice that this is the business after Question Time tomorrow, as there would otherwise be no Order of Business to order anything.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

When the Whips' meeting took place last Wednesday, it was agreed that Fianna Fáil would have the HSE statements tomorrow. The Deputy's party is entitled to, and did, submit a Private Members' motion on Friday that was also on a health issue.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

The health Private Members' motion takes precedence over the statements. That is why it was moved. No other reason.

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We will need to debate this and call a division at some stage, be it today or tomorrow.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

We will not debate it now. This is purely for arrangement purposes. If the Deputy does not agree to it, I must put the question.

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Rather than divide the House-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I am sorry, but the Deputy is not entitled to debate this. Only parties that have an objection to the taking of something may.

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I have an objection to the taking of the Industrial Development (Forfás Dissolution) Bill.

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That will be tomorrow's Order of Business.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

The question is on the proposal for dealing with the motion re freedom of information. It is not about the industrial Bill.

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No motion will move the industrial Bill this evening.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

No. I am putting to the House the question on whether the proposal for dealing with the motion re freedom of information is agreed.

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That is fine. We have no problem with that.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

This is because it will be taken after Question Time. Is the proposal for dealing with No. 14 agreed to? Agreed.

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