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Dáil
‹ Order of Business

Water charges debate and pricing details

Summary

Joe Higgins repeatedly asks whether the Government will provide its water-charge pricing proposals and hold the debate promised after Easter. The Ceann Comhairle rules the intervention out of order as unrelated to the Order of Business, despite exchanges with other Deputies.

Will the Tánaiste clarify whether the Labour Party believes that, when it imposes a water tax-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

No.

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-----the tax comes with an in-built Labour anaesthetic-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

We are not going back there. This is the Order of Business.

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-----and causes no pain and hurts no one? If that is not the case-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

The Deputy is out of order.

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-----will the Tánaiste tell us how Labour will save us from Fine Gael hurting us all?

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Will the Deputy leave the leaflet down, please? He is totally out of order.

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Labour even showed a water tap to make the point that it would stop Fine Gael from introducing a water charge of €238.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Deputy, you know the rules of this House.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

No, I am serious. I called you out of respect for you. I expect you to behave in a proper fashion by adhering to the rules.

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Throw him out.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

This is the Order of Business. It is not-----

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A talking shop.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

-----an occasion to make speeches.

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Sometimes, people have to be reminded of what they said because they tend to forget.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

There are plenty of other occasions that are not the Order of Business.

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The Taoiseach firmly promised me yesterday that, when the Dáil returned after Easter and well before the local and European elections, the Government would present in detail its pricing structure and proposals for water.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

That was yesterday.

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Is that detail agreed? Will the definitive information-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

That is not on the Order of Business.

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-----that the Government was not ready or want to give yesterday be before us?

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

That is not on the Order of Business.

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I am sorry, but it is.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

You are out of order. This is about promised legislation.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

It is not about Government commitments or anything else.

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-----arrangements for sittings that were promised in the House by the Taoiseach yesterday. I am simply asking the Tánaiste whether that still stands.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

If the Taoiseach promised it yesterday, why does the Deputy want to be told it again today?

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The Tánaiste promised there would be no water charges three years ago.

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A lot has happened since yesterday. It is a simple question.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

No.

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Labour knew the figure.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Other Deputies are offering. We all must stick to the rules of the House or submit a proposal to the Committee on Procedure and Privileges, CPP, to change them.

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It is a simple question. Will the debate promised by the Taoiseach stand?

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

It is not a simple question. You are out of order.

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I am really in order, a Cheann Comhairle.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

You are not in order.

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He is out of order.

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The Tánaiste could shake his head or nod.

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Bernard Durkan Deputy Bernard J. Durkan Fine Gael

Deputy Higgins is well able to do that himself.

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One needs strength to do that.

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I am loth to interrupt Deputy Higgins-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

You had better proceed, because I will call the next Deputy if you do not.

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