Time for ministerial appointment debate
Deputy Martin criticises the unusually brief debate on appointing a Minister, contrasting it with longer debates under previous Governments. Deputy Quinn says extra time was not requested but agrees a further debate could be arranged if the House wishes.
It appears from a very quick review of the record that we had this morning the shortest ever debate on the nomination of a Minister. There was once a tradition of having a day-long debate. On the last comparable occasion, three hours were allowed. It is interesting that, on that occasion, the current Taoiseach, who was then in opposition, attacked the time allowed as insufficient and tabled a counter-motion to extend it to seven hours. This reflects a pattern associated with how the Executive is going about its business regarding stage management, presentation, spin and managing events. The Guerin report is to be published tomorrow and, therefore, there will be no opportunity during Leaders' Questions or the Order of Business to deal with it. From what I can see, this is the standard practice of the Government.
I was somewhat alarmed by the comment of the Minister for Education and Skills that the debate on the Guerin report will not necessarily be next week. The Taoiseach was very clear to me yesterday that there would be a debate thereon in the Dáil next week. I ask the Minister for Education and Skills to make it absolutely clear that there will be a debate on it next week and that the Government will not try to attempt to long-finger it beyond the local and European elections. The approach to everything, including water charges, is to bury the matter in an effort to get beyond the next electoral hurdle. Although the Government had hours to read the Guerin report, which led to the resignation of the Minister for Justice and Equality, the former Minister and Taoiseach were able to make up their minds on it very quickly, if we are to believe all the briefings today. At the very least, we will have a weekend to read the report, which is much longer than the former Minister had. According to the headlines in the newspapers, the Taoiseach gave him but three hours. There is no way that the Minister for Education and Skills should try to slip out of committing to a debate next week on the report. It is what my party is seeking. I ask the Minister for Education and Skills to confirm today that Government time will be made available next week to facilitate it.
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Deputy Martin observed that we have just had the shortest ever debate on the appointment of a new Minister.
That is a matter for this House. While other people may have wanted to speak, I understand from the Chief Whip there was no request for extra time. The House was informed last night by the Minister of State, Deputy Kehoe. We have given extra time in the past and that time has not been filled. There is no difficulty for us, unless we have to meet specific commitments in terms of timetables that were set by the troika in regard to various things we had to have enacted by a certain time.
With regard to what I have just said, and what the Taoiseach said yesterday, my recollection of it is slightly better than Deputy Martin's. The Taoiseach said:
The terms of reference will obviously have to be debated here. The report is 300 pages long and needs to be considered carefully. [The net point is as follows.] It may not be appropriate, given its scale, for it to be debated next week, but that is a matter for agreement between the Whips.
If Deputy Martin is of the view, and if the Whips for the Sinn Féin Party and the Technical Group are of a similar view, I am sure we can accommodate that, although I do not want to pre-empt-----
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Okay, but we do not normally discuss Whips' business over the floor. I note the former Minister, Deputy Shatter, did not read the entire report, as he said himself, because of its length. If the general view is that we want to have a debate next week and that sufficient time to read the report and digest it has passed, I am sure that matter can be settled by agreement.