Banking inquiry committee independence
Deputy Martin challenged the Government’s need for a committee majority and accused it of seeking control over the banking inquiry’s terms of reference. The Taoiseach defended the requirement, while heated exchanges led to the sitting being suspended; he also said the lobbyist Bill would return to Government.
Why does the Government need a majority?
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A majority is needed because the committee will issue a report and will have to be able to adopt terms of reference.
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If we do not have a majority, we cannot do that. How do I know what the members will do?
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It is up to the committee to decide its terms of reference.
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This is very serious. We are talking here about Government interference-----
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I did not interrupt the Deputy. A committee has to be able to adopt terms of reference.
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Is the Taoiseach doubting the members?
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What the Taoiseach has just said is extraordinary.
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This is an extraordinary revelation by the Taoiseach. He is saying that the Government wants to dominate the committee and decide the terms of reference. If it does not get its own way, there will not be any terms of reference. That is what he just said.
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Does the Taoiseach realise the degree to which he is undermining the impartiality of the committee?
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The Taoiseach needs to respect the House.
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The Deputy should resume his seat and show some respect for the Chair, regardless of who is occupying it.
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I am showing respect but what is happening here is extraordinary.
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My behaviour is not extraordinary at all.
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What is extraordinary is that the Taoiseach has stated that he is going to dictate the terms of reference.
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Deputy Martin should not be hopping up and down trying to interject. He should address his remarks through the Chair.
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I am not hopping up and down. I normally do not do this but the Taoiseach has made extraordinary comments to the effect that the terms of reference will be dictated by the Government and no one else.
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He stated "I do not have a majority".
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The Ceann Comhairle should calm down. I am making my point.
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I call the Taoiseach and I do not want there to be a debate on this issue. We are on the Order of Business and dealing with legislation promised.
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-----the Leader of the Seanad uttered an innuendo about a Member of that House. Said innuendo related to the particular Member's character and it was stated that he had a conflict of interests. The Taoiseach has now stated that all of this relates to the fact that the Government wants a majority on the inquiry.
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The Taoiseach has just confirmed what he is up to. That is what he has been doing all along.
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I hope it does not relate to the issue that was being discussed prior to the suspension.