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Dáil
‹ Order of Business

Order of Business

Summary

The Taoiseach proposed the day’s business and a later sitting, with the House agreeing to most arrangements. Opposition deputies objected to the limited debate on renewing the Offences against the State (Amendment) Act 1998, while the Taoiseach defended its annual continuation on security grounds.

Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

It is proposed to take No. a10, motion re membership of a committee; No. 24, Social Welfare and Pensions Bill 2014 - Report Stage (resumed) and Final Stages; No. 25, Radiological Protection (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2014 - Second Stage (resumed); and No. 1, Merchant Shipping (Registration of Ships) Bill 2013 [Seanad] - Second Stage.

It is proposed, notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders, that in the event a division is in progress at the time fixed for taking Private Members' business, the Dáil shall sit later than 9 p.m. and Private Members' business, which shall be No. 52, Public Sector Management (Appointment of Senior Members of the Garda Síochána) Bill 2014 – Second Stage (resumed), shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion after 90 minutes; No. a10 shall be decided without debate; tomorrow's business after Oral Questions shall be No. 10 - motion re Offences against the State (Amendment) Act 1998; No. 11 - motion re Criminal Justice (Amendment) Act 2009; and No. 2 - Industrial Development (Forfás Dissolution) Bill 2013 - amendments from the Seanad.

It is proposed, notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders, that No. 10 and No. 11 shall be moved and debated together and shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion after 45 minutes and the following arrangements shall apply: the speech of a Minister or Minister of State and of the main spokespersons for Fianna Fáil, Sinn Féin and the Technical Group, who shall be called upon in that order, and who may share their time, shall not exceed ten minutes in each case, and a Minister or Minister of State shall be called upon to make a speech in reply which shall not exceed five minutes.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I hope those who were engaged in debate while the Taoiseach was trying to read out the Order of Business will understand what is on today because I do not think they were listening.

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It does not really matter.

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I think the Ceann Comhairle underestimates us.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

There are three proposals to be put to the House.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Sorry, would Deputies stay quiet please? Thank you.

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Deputy Mathews could have been part of it.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Would you stay quiet, please? That applies to everybody, whether a Minister, a Minister of State, a Government backbencher-----

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Or Chief Whip.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

-----an Opposition Member or an Independent Member, in particular.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Deputy Buttimer, as the Chairman of a committee, should know better.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

There are three proposals to be put to the House. Is the proposal for dealing with the late sitting agreed to? Agreed. Is the proposal for dealing with No. a10 - motion re membership of committee, without debate, agreed to? Agreed.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Sorry?

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I was just asking if-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Maybe you would go down to the Gaiety Theatre and get some work down there.

Is the proposal for dealing with Nos. 10 and 11 tomorrow, motion re Offences against the State (Amendment) Act 1998 and Criminal Justice (Amendment) Act 2009 agreed to?

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It is not agreed. The Offences against the State (Amendment) Act 1998 has been renewed annually and only cursory attention has been paid to it despite the fact this Act, in its original manifestation, was intended to be temporary, as on each of the renewals since. The Offences against the State (Amendment) Act 1998 continues to infringe on the judicial rights of suspects, and I emphasise the word "suspects".

It is very important the provisions of this Act are properly addressed by this House and a 45 minute period of time would not allow that, either in this House or at the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality. Ultimately, this has to be revisited. It should be repealed as it has no place in the Ireland of today. I urge Government to grasp the nettle and not be afraid to tackle what is involved. It has to be done. It is due to years of not being willing to face up to this fact that this Government and previous Governments have allowed this odious legislation to continue unaddressed. I oppose the taking of the motion in this way, which has applied continuously.

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I will always take that position.

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I agree with Deputy Ó Caoláin. As the date of the Offences against the State (Amendment) Act 1998 suggests, it is a full 16 years ago. The draconian measures deemed appropriate at that time, but with which I disagreed, have, even by the standards of the Government, long since passed. There should be appropriate time for a much deeper and more meaningful discussion on the dangers of having this type of repressive draconian legislation on the Statute Book.

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They have not gone away.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

This is renewed every year. There are very good reasons this should be renewed on an annual basis and the Minister for Justice and Equality has put forward the view that this should apply again. This debate takes place every year.

I remind Deputies Higgins and Ó Caoláin that there are people living on this island who want to destroy this State. Many of them have acquired a capacity for destruction that warrants the continuation of this order should it ever be required and for that reason, the Minister for Justice and Equality has made this recommendation. It has been an annual issue since 1998 and I strongly support it.

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Division Carried

Question put: "That the proposal for dealing with Nos. 10 and 11 tomorrow be agreed to."

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