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Dáil
‹ Order of Business

Medical cards for older people

Summary

Deputy Martin challenges the withdrawal of medical cards from older and nursing-home residents, while the Taoiseach says universal GP access for over-70s is being implemented and further legislation is being prepared.

-----if for no other reason. We are entitled to have some sense of what the timeline will be either day or indeed tomorrow. It will involve resolutions being brought before the House, the ordering of the schedule of the House and contributions from the Government and Opposition.

The second item I want to raise is a serious one concerning older people in our community, particularly up to 35,000 over 70 year olds who are having their medical cards taken from them. However, the problem for many over 70 year olds who are suffering from a severe illness or who may have particular conditions is that they cannot get a discretionary medical card under the criteria that apply to the over 70 year olds.

They are being told they have to apply on the basis of the income thresholds applicable to people under 70 years of age. As a result, some very sick elderly people are losing their medical cards. All of us are receiving representations from the relatives of 80 and 90 year olds who are losing their medical cards because of the cut in the threshold introduced in the last budget. This applies even if they suffer from a severe condition that would in ordinary times merit a medical card. The relevant legislation is the universal primary care Bill which was promised in the programme for Government. It beggars belief that the Government is on the one hand promising the introduction of universal health cover and on the other is withdrawing vital medical cards from elderly people in this country who need them.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

The Government is considering a number of options in respect of the roll-out of primary care services for the 0-6 years category and other different categories, including the over 70s. The Government has made the decision that all persons over 70 will be entitled to access to GP services.

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No, some 35,000 medical cards have been withdrawn. The Government has done the opposite.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

On 1 July, I sent the Deputy a letter setting out the process in respect of the universal primary Bill. It also sets out the timeframe for-----

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People in nursing homes are losing their medical cards.

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Does the Taoiseach not know that?

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Sorry, Deputy, hold on a minute.

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Is the Government in touch with the reality?

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

We are very much in touch with reality.

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The Government is not-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

We are dealing now with promised legislation.

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-----and that is patently obvious. What is happening is unbelievable.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I call Deputy Adams.

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What about Deputy Martin's first question?

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The latest revelation is that they are all getting medical cards.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Deputy, please.

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It is very difficult to take this type of-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

The Deputy can raise issues like this during Leaders' Questions. This is the Order of Business.

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The Taoiseach is a great man for saying black is white and white is black.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Deputy Adams.

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