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Further Maíria Cahill dispute

Summary

The Taoiseach and Deputy Adams continue an acrimonious exchange over the handling of Maíria Cahill’s allegations, alleged knowledge and cover-up claims, while the Chair rules that the serious matter cannot be debated on the Order of Business.

Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

In regard to the other matter Deputy Adams mentioned, I have not met Ms Maíria Cahill but I intend to meet her tomorrow. The false assumption of a war being waged does not justify shootings, disappearances or kangaroo courts.

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The Taoiseach might know I said that.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

I know that.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

This is not really in order on the Order of Business.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

Were I standing in this position where I had to sit in the knowledge that somebody, a member of my party, had raped a woman, and were I to attend and speak to that person or in the knowledge that that person had had her abuser or rapist brought before her, I would not last five minutes in this position.

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Neither should the Taoiseach. What is the point he is making?

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

Deputy Adams attended and spoke to this young woman-----

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Without that knowledge.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

-----and she stated they were not speaking about the weather.

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Without that knowledge. I was asked-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I am sorry, but we are not having a debate on this topic. This is too serious a matter.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

It is not for debate now, but I only make the point-----

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These representatives are politicising the issue. I am very conscious that victims of abuse are watching the proceedings.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Deputy Adams should please resume his seat. I thank him.

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Deputy Adams should listen to the question, which is whether he believes Maíria Cahill or not.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

I answered Deputy Martin's question. This is not the time to get into a debate on the issue.

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The Taoiseach asked for more than that.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

I merely make the point that one cannot have blind allegiance from one's deputy leader when she says she believes Deputy Adams fully and completely and can give a categoric guarantee that there is no cover-up anywhere within the Sinn Féin Party about this, or within the IRA. We understand others might well come forward. I do not know. I look forward to speaking to Maíria Cahill tomorrow.

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I wish to state again; there is no cover-up by Sinn Féin. Second, the Taoiseach cannot make the type of assertion he made.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Deputy Adams should please respect the Chair.

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Once again, the Taoiseach has not asked me for my version of events.

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The victim is making the assertion.

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The Taoiseach is making assertions.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Deputy Adams should please not interrupt.

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He is playing politics.

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Deputy Adams should listen to her.

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I did. Deputy Kehoe does not know what he is talking about.

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