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Abuse debate and promised legislation

Summary

Micheál Martin seeks a debate on abuse allegations and updates on State-board appointments and several promised Bills. The Taoiseach confirms an abuse debate for the following Wednesday and gives timelines for water-environment, broadcasting, health and transport-support legislation, while promising further information on social-impact bonds and health reform.

I have a number of issues to raise. First, at Leaders' Questions before the recess, I asked the Taoiseach if the Government would facilitate the Oireachtas with time to debate the allegations of abuse within the Sinn Féin-IRA movement at the time.

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Eric J. Byrne Deputy Eric Byrne Labour Party

Which abuse?

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It was agreed that time would be allocated. It has not happened this week and I would appreciate if it could be facilitated next week, because a lot has been said both here and outside the House. I would like to express my views in a considered way in a structured debate in the House and I am sure others would like to do so also.

My second point concerns the programme for Government.

Changes have been suggested in respect of the filling of appointments to State boards. I do not know if the Taoiseach is familiar with the work of John Walshe, the recently retired adviser to the former Minister for Education and Skills. Mr. Walshe has published a book where he states that Mark Kennelly, who is a leading official in the Department of the Taoiseach, metaphorically twisted his arm and said that Fine Gael wanted its quota of appointments in the education world.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

That is not a matter for the Order of Business.

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We had the John McNulty fiasco. I know the Taoiseach is smiling but we were promised a democratic revolution and Mr. Walshe did say that people who advertised were the last to be considered.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Will Deputies settle down?

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He said the Labour Party had its appointments and that Fine Gael must now get its appointments.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Could we hear the Deputy's views on the Order of Business?

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The third issue I want to raise is the water environment Bill. This Bill is to support the implementation of the water framework directive, which is particularly relevant given all the debate we have had.

A fourth piece of legislation that has been promised relates to the establishment of a new model of financing social interventions called social impact bonds. These would share the Exchequer savings with charitable and voluntary organisations. When will that legislation be introduced?

The broadcasting (amendment) Bill will amend the Broadcasting Act 2009 to remove the television licence fee provisions, introduce the means of collecting a broadcasting charge and implement the Government decision relating to the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland's five-year review of public funding. The former Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources was very enthusiastic about this legislation. The Taoiseach might indicate when it is proposed to publish it.

The health reform Bill will put in place the new structures for the health service. When can we expect this Bill or is it to be published? The health (transport support) Bill is to provide for a scheme to make individual payments to people with severe disabilities who cannot access public transport as a contribution towards their transport costs. The Taoiseach will remember that this was a very hot issue nearly two budgets ago. He made promises that he would look after those whose mobility is severely hampered by virtue of having a disability and nothing has been done. It is a scandal in itself that the Taoiseach has allowed all this time to go by without fulfilling his commitments in that regard. I will leave it at that for today.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

We will have the debate on sexual abuse next Wednesday. I would like to get the views of Members as to the structure of that debate. I share the Deputy's view about its importance. As I have said on many occasions, there can be no equivocation about sexual abuse or about harbouring those who have carried out sexual abuse or are a danger to children in particular.

With regard to appointments to State boards, the Government made a decision that from 1 November and leaving aside those that were in train, every Minister would see that their Departments were on the StateBoards.ie system in respect of the boards under their remit and the vacancies arising on those boards and that people would have to apply through that system, have their credentials and qualifications assessed by the Public Appointments Service and be referred to Departments subsequently having being cleared, or vetted if the Deputy uses that word, by the Public Appointments Service. That is in train.

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Will both parties still want their share of the boards as per John Walshe's revelations?

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I am sorry.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

There was a-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Through the Chair, please.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

There was a party in government some time ago which made 300 or 400 appointments in an interregnum period before an election. I would not comment on it.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Let us get on with the Order of Business.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

The water environment Bill is due next year. I will come back to the Deputy about the social impact bonds Bill. The other Bill mentioned by the Deputy was the broadcasting (amendment) Bill. A great deal of work has been done on that Bill and I expect that it should be produced before the end of this year. I hope it can be produced by then. If not, it will be very early next year.

The health reform Bill-----

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What about the social impact bonds Bill?

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

I will revert to the Deputy in respect of social impact bonds and give him an update.

In respect of the health reform Bill, a number of policy measures are being considered and I must update Deputy Micheál Martin and the House in that regard. The health (transport support) Bill is expected early next year.

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