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Dáil
‹ Order of Business

Shane O’Farrell case review

Summary

John McGuinness sought progress on a review involving the Shane O’Farrell case, priority for older cases and possible action concerning complaints about the DPP. The Chair ruled the matter out of order on the Order of Business and, after McGuinness continued, ordered him to leave amid repeated procedural objections.

I would like to ask the Taoiseach about the two senior counsel and the other members of the group that was appointed to look over such cases as the Shane O'Farrell case.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Sorry, Deputy. This is out of order on the Order of Business.

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It is not, actually.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

You know it is.

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They were to report in October 2014. That time was extended because of other cases. Will the Taoiseach ensure the cases that were there before the other cases were added will be reported on? This is necessary because of the trauma, sadness and everything else that is affecting the lives of people like Lucia O'Farrell. Can the Taoiseach tell me whether the Minister for Justice and Equality will bring forward legislation or a regulation whereby the complaints of alleged corruption within the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions will be dealt with in order that clarification can be brought to the correspondence sent to him by Lucia O'Farrell? Will he do something about her case and the others that were investigated first to give them priority?

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Deputy, this is the Order of Business. You know that. You are a long time in this House.

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Can you do that, Taoiseach?

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Hold it a second, Deputy. You speak through the Chair. You are a long time in this House. You know the rules as well as I do, so please adhere to them. If you have a problem, table a parliamentary question-----

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It will be disqualified.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

-----or table it on Topical Issue matters.

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We cannot get them.

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On a point of order-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

What point of order is it?

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-----parliamentary questions were tabled on this.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Yes.

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The information in the parliamentary questions related to legislation and other matters that can only be dealt with in here.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Yes, but not on the Order of Business.

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We are dealing with serious cases that have been given to this group.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

We cannot deal with them on the Order of Business. Will you resume your seat?

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A commitment was given to this House that a report would be made within a period up to October 2014.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

This is the Order of Business.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I have to be fair to everyone.

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Deal with the Order of Business then, because this commitment was given.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Would you sit down, please?

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I am asking the Taoiseach whether he will ensure these cases are dealt with as a matter of priority-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Deputy, I will not ask you a second time.

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-----and Lucia O'Farrell and others are given justice because they have made serious complaints.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Deputy, you are a Chairman of a committee. Would you show respect to the Chair? Sit down, please.

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I am asking the Taoiseach to make a statement on the matter today.

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Eric J. Byrne Deputy Eric Byrne Labour Party

The Deputy wants to go on a holiday.

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He has the correspondence.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Deputy McGuinness, would you leave the House, please? Leave the House, please.

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Eric J. Byrne Deputy Eric Byrne Labour Party

He wants an early holiday.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Leave the House. Please, leave the House. You are totally ignoring the Chair. Leave the House. Leave the House, I said.

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A Cheann Comhairle, ask the Taoiseach to answer the question.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Do you want me to name you?

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You can name me if you like.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Leave the House. You are a Chairman of a committee and you know the protocol.

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That has nothing to do with what I am raising, a Cheann Comhairle.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Sit down or leave the House.

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I am asking you to-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Leave the House so. Go on.

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Eric J. Byrne Deputy Eric Byrne Labour Party

Take an early holiday.

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-----direct the Taoiseach to answer the question.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

No, I certainly will not. It is totally out of order.

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How are we going to get the information if I cannot get it by way of parliamentary question?

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Would you leave the House? Do you want me to name you?

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No, I would ask you to name the Taoiseach and ask him to answer the question.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Do you want me to name you? Would you please leave the House?

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No. Ask him to answer the question.

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There are lots of leaders here today.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Deputy, would you leave the House? I have already asked you.

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I will leave the House in respect of your position.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Well, leave. Thank you.

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I ask you to ask the Taoiseach to please answer the question.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

You know yourself how to go about these things.

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I do, and they do not work.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Not on the Order of Business.

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You do not make it work either.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

That is very insulting, is it not?

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I do not know. It is probably accurate though.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

You should be ashamed of yourself.

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Shame on the Deputy.

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His leader should dissociate himself from that outburst.

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