Cuts to lone-parent payments
Micheál Martin says the July reduction in lone-parent payments is impoverishing families, undermining employment and leaving parents unable to afford childcare. The Tánaiste defends the reform, citing transitional arrangements, employment supports and past Fianna Fáil cuts, while disputing Martin’s statistics; no policy reversal is offered.
I am not sure whether the Tánaiste is aware of the many devastating cases that we are hearing about in e-mails and from constituents that are demonstrating the impact on so many families across the country of the cut to the one-parent family allowance that was brought in on 1 July. I received a heart-rending e-mail last week from a woman who has been working since she was 14 years of age. In recent times she has had to move back to her parents' home because of the cuts to rent allowance and her inability to afford rent. Her lowest point was going to the post office recently and realising that her payment had been cut from €150 to €81. She describes the impact of this cut. Of course, there is no increase in her wages. She will require close to €50 to pay for petrol to go to work. She wrote that what the Government has done is to make her feel ashamed and humiliated because she is a lone parent. Perhaps the Tánaiste has heard similar sentiments, because the woman's view was "What does the Tánaiste care? Her aim is to liberate lone parents." The woman wrote that the Government had just set her back years and she was ashamed of it.
Equally, the Labour Party Whip, Deputy Stagg, finds the Tánaiste's cuts indefensible. In an e-mail to his constituents who have contacted him about this matter, he stated that he voted for this in 2012 because he was told that the promised child care system would be in place before the last and most severe of the changes. Then he wrote that there had been angry debate at parliamentary party meetings on the issue and that he simply failed to see how cutting the income of the very people who are making a real effort to improve the lot of their families and themselves helps them in any way to get out of the poverty trap, when it clearly has the opposite effect. He stated that he would continue to press for a reversal of this bad decision. He finally stated that he did not blame the constituents for withdrawing support for the party, but he would continue to try to convince those who are making decisions. Clearly, Deputy Stagg has not convinced the Tánaiste, the person who has made the decision that has caused genuine suffering to many.
I have come across other cases. A 53 year old man earning €200 is now getting no lone parent payment and, because he is self-employed, he gets no family income supplement, FIS.
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He has been refused FIS a second time and he has been working since he was 14 years of age. A working woman with a medical condition has been advised by the social welfare office not to work any more and to go on invalidity pension. One self-employed woman is now getting zero payment and has had to close down a child-minding service that she had been operating for ten years in order to get some work outside the home.
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Is the Tánaiste aware of the deep suffering that many families are now experiencing-----
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Does she agree with her party Whip, Deputy Stagg, that this is a bad decision, that it will not help people out of the poverty trap and that it is clearly having the opposite effect? Does she agree with Deputy Stagg's assessment of the cuts that she has introduced?
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The first point I would make about lone parents is that, notwithstanding very significant spending by the Government of which Deputy Martin was a member during the height of the boom, lone parents' risk of poverty was higher then than it is now. The Fianna Fáil-led Government refused to reform benefits for lone parents. John Downing was on radio in recent times recalling a discussion with one of the former Fianna Fáil Ministers for social protection. Notwithstanding the advice in those days of the OECD and others that lone parents were the people most at risk of poverty in Irish society, and the fact that this was a time when there was a lot of money to spend on social welfare, Fianna Fáil chose not to undertake any kind of reform.
Through a combination of approximately 19 hours per week of work and the family income supplement, FIS, the purpose of this reform, which is in its third year, is to lift the situation for lone parents and bring their income up above €400 per week, depending on the number of children they have and the hourly rate at which they are employed. For a lone parent, for instance, who would only be on one-parent family allowance for himself or herself and one child, that would work out at the moment at an average of about €220 per week. I think most people in the House would agree that is a very low income. However, if a lone parent raises his or her hours to 19 per week at the minimum wage and receives FIS as well, his or her income would rise to over €400 per week. Now, if this House and this society and country are serious-----
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The Tánaiste is misleading the House.
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What about the Scandinavian model of child care?
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The Tánaiste is deluding herself.
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By making them poorer. Does the Tánaiste believe herself? No one else does, not even her party's Whip.
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Children are going to school impoverished. The Tánaiste is taking money off them.
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The Government is taking money off them.
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He said that it was a bad decision.
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The Tánaiste has him handbagged.
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He said that because the Tánaiste gave him a belt of a handbag.
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Deputy Stagg got caught telling the truth.
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-----in respect of Deputy O'Dea's question about child care, what we did was unique to Ireland.
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The Tánaiste promised Scandinavian-type child care.
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The Tánaiste is not discussing the details.
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-----to seven years to make provision for the child to get settled in primary school in and around first class. What we also did-----
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The Government would have done that anyway.
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The Government is taking money from homeless people and-----
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The Tánaiste reduced the age. She should be ashamed of herself.
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-----so that the requirement to work, similar to any jobseeker, arises only when the child is 14. So, we have actually brought in an extra nine-year transition period-----
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The Tánaiste should visit Barretstown.
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One could say the same about care.
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Around 1,100 children are sleeping in hotels. The Government took their homes from them.
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What about illness and jobseeker's benefits?
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The Government will put money in politicians' pension pots, though.
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That is the question Deputy Martin has to answer. Why was he never, in his long ministerial career in Fianna Fáil-----
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By taking money off the parents, is the Tánaiste making that better?
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Around 1,100 children are sleeping in hotels.
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The Tánaiste always said that Brian Cowen did not-----
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Since this Government came to office, child poverty has doubled.
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The Tánaiste does not sound too concerned about lone parents.
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Child poverty has doubled in this Government's lifetime.
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Has the Tánaiste not met any lone parent who told her about this problem? We have.
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We did not show our concern by cutting the rate by €80.
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A Leas-Cheann Comhairle, this is scandalous.
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Should they bring their kids to work? Should they have them work as well?
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Could the person in possession please be allowed to speak? I call Deputy Martin to ask a supplementary question.
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The Tánaiste shows her concern by cutting their money.
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I will give the Tánaiste a bit of advice. This kind of political grandstanding has no impact-----
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-----or does not seek to persuade the people whom I identified this morning. It does not convince the woman who wrote to SPARK, for example, who is down €70 per week. She said she did not want to go into the figures because she would get a lump in her throat, and that she dreaded the thought of winter. All of the letters and e-mails that we are getting are saying that people cannot afford child care.
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That woman is less likely to be employed.
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One woman said that she must now tell her child to stay indoors until 1 p.m. when she returned. The Tánaiste promised a Scandinavian-type child care provision-----
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And she gave us a scandalous one.
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The Government has done nothing about child care.
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The Tánaiste is surrounded by Tories.
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Another person said, "The future is very bleak for me and my gem of a 12 year old." The Tánaiste can do all of the grandstanding and political stuff that she does and quote figures that were wrong because that is what she wants to do.
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She wants to go down the route of cuts. I will not go down there. It is just too----
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The Tánaiste is convincing no one.
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The Tánaiste's greatest mistake was to quote the wrong statistics. This message is not coming from me, but from people who were incensed by her performance on this issue last week. They are fed up of trying to play figure against figure. The policy is not working. In 2012, more than 60% of lone parents were at least in part-time employment. The figure in 2014 was 36%.
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The policy is not working. The bottom line-----
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Deputy Stagg, Labour's Whip, does not agree with the Tánaiste. That is in black and white in his letter to his constituent.
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He was handbagged by the Tánaiste.
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Deputy Stagg wrote, "I simply fail to see how cutting the income of the very ones who are making a real effort to improve the lot of their families and themselves help them in some way to get out of the poverty trap. It clearly has the opposite effect. I will continue to press for a reversal of this bad decision."
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It is a pity that Deputy Stagg did nothing about it.
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He even wrote that he understood fully why this constituent would never vote for the party again. That is what he wrote in his e-mail.
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Deputy Stagg wrote that he would continue trying to convince the Tánaiste-----
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And now she claims that he supports it.
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-----who was wrong, to reverse the bad decision.
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The lone parents and children who are suffering do not give a damn about Joan Burton having a cut off Micheál Martin. To them, that sums up the detachment from politics of those in government. What they really want to hear is who will bridge the gap for them-----
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-----who will pay to enable them to get their children to school next September and who will enable them to get petrol to get to work in order to provide funding for child care.
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Sorry, but I am not worried. They do not really-----
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You turned your back on them for years.
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They are not into the argy bargy of politics. It is meaningless to them.
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That type of stuff the Tánaiste is going on with is meaningless to them.
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What they really want to hear is whether there is any glimmer of hope that the Tánaiste will see the light and accept that this measure, which she introduced on 1 July, is having a devastating impact on a significant number of lone parents and their children.
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Will the Tánaiste do something to change this? Everyone in the House is saying it, but she refuses to be convinced. Even her own party is saying it.
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I suggest that Deputy Martin, when he has the time, looks at some of the figures he has just read out in the House here about the numbers of lone parents in work, because his figures are wrong. I will provide Deputy Martin with the updated figures-----
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-----and with the recent figures according to the SILC. His figures are just plain wrong.
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Did Deputy Stagg write to someone who did not exist?
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We could actually have a better debate if Deputy Martin came in here with some knowledge of the situation on the ground.
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We have had the knowledge for years.
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I am on the ground. The Tánaiste is not. That is the problem with her.
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Secondly, can I just say this to the Deputy? For instance, the back to work family dividend, which we introduced in the budget, has now had 2,500 people - families - apply for it-----
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It does not compensate for the losses.
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It is specifically designed to help, including people who are self-employed, by the way, but Deputy Martin has obviously never heard of it. He referred to two self-employed people there. The back to work family dividend is actually available for self-employed people.
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I am not making up this. These are the very people who-----
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The Tánaiste is trying to mislead the House.
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Can I ask Deputy Martin, as a responsible politician, to give us the actual details of the people involved? The approach by the social welfare offices----
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Someone said she communicated with the Tánaiste but did not hear a dicky bird back.
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People have said they have gone to the Tánaiste. They have listened to her.
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They would do that anyway without the change.
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-----to get back to education, to get back to training, to get employment and, if they need extra hours, to get-----
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They did not need this to be changed.
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Someone send for the Minister, Deputy Kelly, quickly.
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What about those on zero-hour contracts? Some chance.
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-----that will significantly improve, I hope, the position for all low-paid people, including-----
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Parents have been waiting for an answer.
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How can a family survive on €80 per week less?
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How can a family that is losing €80 a week be better off?
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The Tánaiste needs to answer that. How can they be better off after losing €80 a week?
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Have working single parents' payments been reduced, or have they not? There will be a reduction of €1,000 in their incomes.
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Fianna Fáil also cut the minimum wage by €1 an hour. Lone parents in Fianna Fáil's time-----
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They were better off than they are now.
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The income disregard is down. The Tánaiste is pathetic.
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The Tánaiste finds poverty funny.
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This is cold comfort to people who are losing €80 a week.
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The Tánaiste needs to answer the question. Are working single parents' payments down? A "Yes" or "No" answer will suffice.
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Will more people go to work? How is the gap going to be bridged?
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They are pretending not to remember.
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Where are the socialists to fill the gap?
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The Tánaiste needs to forget about the politics, but she cannot do so.