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Dáil
‹ Leaders' Questions

GLAS payment conditions

Summary

Fitzmaurice repeatedly asks whether farmers entering the second tranche of GLAS will receive the same terms and conditions as those who applied in May. The Taoiseach cites the scheme’s funding, applications and environmental targets, then says average payments will not be reduced and farmers can receive up to €5,000, while opponents argue that options and eligibility are being changed.

The Taoiseach referred to youngsters attending colleges and things being booked out. That is 6,500 youngsters over the next two to three years. Consider the ages of farmers across the country. This issue must be addressed.

I will pin it down to one important scheme for the Taoiseach, the green low-carbon agri-environment scheme, GLAS. For small farmers in Mayo and across the country, will the Taoiseach give an undertaking that the same terms and conditions will apply in two weeks' time as when GLAS opened to farmers last May or will he introduce separate schemes for two neighbours with the same acreage that will create a difference of €1,500? The hedgerows aspect, which was worth €1,000, will not be allowed. There is also a change in terms of old, rich meadows and pastures. I have pinned this down to one scheme because it gets complicated in the Dáil if one discusses too many. Will the Taoiseach intervene with his Minister as regards GLAS and ensure that those farmers who enter the scheme now will get the same terms, conditions and options as those who entered it last May? Will he give me a straight answer?

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Deputies

Hear, hear.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

I will try to answer for the Deputy. As he is aware, the Minister, Deputy Coveney, along with other members of Government, successfully negotiated CAP reform during the Irish Presidency in the first half of 2013.

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We know about that.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

As I said, 50,000 farmers will participate in this. They are all smaller farmers in the different areas of the country. A total of €1.4 billion-----

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The Taoiseach already told us that. All I want to know is whether the Government will provide the same terms and conditions.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

-----is allocated under GLAS over the course of the programme. The first tranche attracted 27,000 applications.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

Applications were received from every county, and virtually every action therein was included at some stage.

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Answer the question.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

Deputy Fitzmaurice is aware that, in his own county of Galway and Roscommon-----

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Will the Government give the same terms and conditions?

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

-----they have demonstrated a keen interest in this scheme - 3,250 from Galway and 1,585-----

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They know that. Come on.

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I do not want to hear about that.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I am sorry, but will the Deputies please allow the Taoiseach to reply?

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All that I want to know is whether the Government will give the same terms and conditions?

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Will you hold on a second, please?

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

Sure, you know all the answers.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Through the Chair, not across the floor.

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How many applied in Wicklow?

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

Deputy Fitzmaurice-----

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I am sorry, but there is a time limit on this-----

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He is not giving an answer.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

-----and the Taoiseach's time is nearly up, so the Deputy will not get any answer.

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The Taoiseach is wasting time.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

The Minister, Deputy Coveney, indicated that the second tranche of GLAS-----

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He is spending the least amount of time-----

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

-----would be launched in the coming weeks, and that is expected to attract significant interest as well.

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There is a time limit on the Taoiseach as well.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

Now, on the basis of the 27,000 applications that were submitted, the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine has indicated that farmers will have already met or exceeded RDP targets for low-input permanent pasture, protection of water courses, laying hedgerows, planting of new hedgerows, planting of traditional orchards-----

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That is why the Deputy was asking.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

-----bird, bee and bat habitats, wild bird cover and stone wall maintenance. The Deputy knows all about these things as well.

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That sums up Dáil Éireann.

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Is there a five-point plan?

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The answer is "No".

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

GLAS differs from other schemes and has adopted a very different targeted approach here. In answer to Deputy Fitzmaurice's question, there is no reduction to the average payment that a farmer can receive and achieve under GLAS. Farmers and advisers have the potential to maximise the payment for each individual farmer when they are drawing up the individual's application-----

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They cannot when the Government is excluding all of that.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

-----and to achieve a payment of up to €5,000 under the scheme.

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In case the Taoiseach did not know, he has contradicted himself.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

While a small number in the beginning-----

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Same options, but the Government is changing the goal posts.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

Deputy Fitzmaurice said this will not work, this cannot work.

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The goal posts are gone.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

When the Department shows a deal of resolve-----

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It is like playing hockey in Croke Park.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

I am sorry, but I must intervene.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

-----and understanding about how to work out these problems, they actually do work.

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Deputies

They will not.

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What about the corncrake and the hedgerows?

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

Birds and bats.

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