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Climate legislation and constitutional debates

Summary

Gerry Adams raises the Climate Action Bill, IBRC investigations and promised debates on Constitutional Convention recommendations, criticising the Government’s climate position and delays. The Taoiseach promises debates before the session ends and says Seanad amendments to the climate legislation will be considered in the Dáil.

Tá ceist amháin faoi Climate Action and Low Carbon Development Bill. Tá ceist eile on the promised emergency legislation in respect of the commission of investigation into the IBRC. The Taoiseach's promised to establish a citizens convention to discuss changes to the Eighth amendment of the Constitution.

On the Climate Action and Low Carbon Development Bill, yesterday the Taoiseach told the Paris Climate Change Conference that he wants an ambitious and binding agreement that ultimately, will limit global temperature. At the same time, however, he confirmed that the State will not meet the previous goals for a 20% reduction in emission targets for 2020. It is reported that we have only achieved a miserly 5% reduction, and this will cost the State €600 million in fines. In the light of those clearly contradictory positions and the importance of the Paris conference for this and future generations, will the Taoiseach agree to a Dáil debate on the Paris conference before Christmas? I asked the Taoiseach this question last week and again he did not answer it. Will he also confirm that the Climate Action and Low Carbon Development Bill will be brought to the Dáil next week?

On the issue of emergency legislation in respect of the commission of investigation into IBRC, the Taoiseach will recall that he refused to accept responsibility for the chaos around the setting up of the commission. He also refused to publish the legal advice from the Attorney General upon which the commission was established. It is clear that the Attorney General and the Government missed the issues involved entirely or, as is my submission, the Taoiseach did not want to have a proper investigation into these matters. However, he said in response to my question that he expects to bring to the Government a response taking into account all the parties' views next Tuesday. Was the issue discussed at this morning's Cabinet meeting, and what steps does the Government intend to take to put in place a proper legal context for the creation of the commission to allow it get on and do its work?

At the weekend the Taoiseach said he is planning to establish a citizens' convention to discuss changes to the eighth amendment to the Constitution. Sinn Féin supports changing this article but there are already four outstanding reports from the Constitutional Convention that have yet to be even debated in the Dáil. Now, despite the Government being in clear breach of the timetable it set itself for these, the Taoiseach is announcing another convention. Last March he told me - we are now into December - that all the matters arising from these reports have been completed by the relevant Departments. All the delegate citizens who came together in the Constitutional Convention did such a good job and the relevant Departments scrutinised all of this, but still we have not had debates here. Will the Taoiseach give a commitment that these reports will be discussed before this Dáil concludes for an election, and will he consider meeting the Opposition leaders, but on a proper clár or agenda, to discuss any new constitutional or citizens' convention to agree a format and maximise the potential for positive change?

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

In respect of the question of debates arising from the Constitutional Convention, I gave the Deputy an undertaking that we would have that debate before the House rises, and we will do so.

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That response is meaningless.

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Seán Barrett An Ceann Comhairle Fine Gael

Hold on, this is not Question Time.

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Enda Kenny The Taoiseach Fine Gael

Deputy Gerry Adams asked me a question about the Constitutional Convention reports that were not discussed here. I gave him an undertaking that we would have those debates before the House rises for this session and we will do that.

In regard to the question of the climate change Bill, the amendments from the Seanad will be taken on Thursday morning here in the Dáil and I would expect that the Deputy will be able to make reference to the question of the meeting in Paris of the different political leaders and the roadmap set out for climate justice, climate change and so on.

In regard to IBRC, the Government did consider that this morning. There are a number of issues involved. First, I thank the leaders of the Opposition parties for the letters I received from them but the question of confidentiality, the issue of legal privilege, access to information from the Central Bank and the Stock Exchange, the revisions to the terms of reference, the definition of capital loss, the liquidation of Siteserv plc, conflicts of interest in the appointment of an additional member to the commission, the management of the workload, the resources required and the timeframe for reporting are all matters that were raised in the interim report of Mr. Justice Cregan and which in many cases were referred to by the Opposition parties in their response. I have considered all of these issues and arising from that as there are clearly a number of difficulties and complications, I intend to set out, as I see it, what they are, in writing, later this week for the Opposition leaders. We then need to meet on that issue with an opportunity for the Deputies to give their views as to how the wish of the Government and the Oireachtas can be followed through to achieve our intention of having complete transparency and accountability about the questions that were raised and about the reason for the commission being set up in the first place.

In regard to the matter of the eighth amendment to the Constitution, I was referring here to individual party positions and I have set out what my own party's position will be. Clearly, if the people decide to re-elect the Government, as is their prerogative to do so or not as the case might be, it would be, of course, appropriate that there would be a full-scale involvement of everybody in respect of any formation of a citizens' assembly or citizens' convention.

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