Order of Business
The House agrees to the late sitting and Private Members’ business, while the Opposition objects to rushing €1.6 billion in Supplementary Estimates through plenary debate.
It is proposed to take No. 14, motion re Supplementary Estimates for public services, Votes 6, 7, 12, 17, 20, 21, 26, 29, 30, 31, 32, 37, 38 and 40, back from committee; and No. 2, Legal Services Regulation Bill 2011 - amendments from the Seanad (resumed). It is proposed, notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders, that the Dáil shall sit later than 9 p.m. tonight and shall adjourn on the conclusion of Private Members’ business; No. 14, Votes 6, 7, 12, 17, 20, 21, 26, 29, 30, 31, 32, 37, 38 and 40, shall be moved together immediately after the Order of Business and the proceedings thereon shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion after 20 minutes by one question, and the following arrangements shall apply: the speech of a Minister or Minister of State and of the main spokespersons for Fianna Fáil, Sinn Féin and the Technical Group, who shall be called upon in that order, shall not exceed five minutes in each case, and such Members may share their time, and any division demanded thereon shall be taken forthwith, followed by a suspension of the sitting under Standing Order 23(1); Private Members' business, which shall be No. 205, motion re the establishment of an independent anti-corruption agency (resumed), shall be taken no later than 8.30 p.m. and shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion after 90 minutes.
Tomorrow's business after Oral Questions shall be No. 2, Legal Services Regulation Bill 2011 - amendments from the Seanad (resumed); No. 36, Criminal Justice (Burglary of Dwellings) Bill 2015 - Order for Report, Report and Final Stages; No. 2a, International Protection Bill 2015 [Seanad] - Second Stage; and No. 2b, Planning and Development (Amendment) Bill 2015 [Seanad] - Second Stage.
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There are three proposals to put to the House. Is the proposal for dealing with the late sitting agreed? Agreed. Is the proposal for dealing with No. 14, motion re Supplementary Estimates for public services, agreed to?
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It is not agreed to. It seems extraordinary that we are dealing with Supplementary Estimates involving hundreds of millions, if not billions, of euro while the plenary session of the Dáil is not in a position to have any serious debate about them. One Supplementary Estimate alone involves €665 million for the health service, which was disgracefully treated in the past, but a total of only 20 minutes will be allocated to all of them. By any yardstick, that represents a dramatic lack of accountability on the part of individual Departments to the full assembly of the Dáil. Large amounts of taxpayers' money are being spent without any real debate or discussion on them. They have been discussed in various committees but there is a plenary session here, too, and people who are not members of individual committees-----
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They may not have the opportunity.
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We are talking about €1.6 billion of taxpayers' money being rushed through in 20 minutes. It is a disgrace. This is some democratic revolution. There will be five minutes for each spokesperson.
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Parliament is being consistently undermined by Government.
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This is the return of the Estimates to the plenary session of the House. They were all discussed individually in committee, and party spokespersons and anybody else who wished had full entitlement to go to those discussions and ask any questions they wanted for as long as they wished. We are not going to have the same thing in here. They were discussed individually and in detail. I am not sure whether Deputy Martin's spokespersons turned up, but they had the opportunity to debate them at any length they wished in the place they should be debated in detail, namely, in committee.
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That is not the point. I would like to discuss them. Are we to abolish the plenary session of the Dáil?
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Did Deputy Martin check whether his spokespersons turned up? What questions did they ask? Did they make a contribution?
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It is about every Member of the House having the opportunity. Does the Taoiseach understand Parliament?