Ibrahim Halawa and order dispute
Deputy Bríd Smith repeatedly attempted to ask about a possible legal mechanism to assist Ibrahim Halawa and ended up in a prolonged procedural clash with the Ceann Comhairle over relevance and order. The exchange escalated to suspension of the House, with the Chair insisting the Deputy resume her seat and rejecting accusations that discussion was being suppressed.
I am not aware of whether legislation exists in the area I raise or if it is possible to legislate or introduce a mechanism to do something the Taoiseach indicated he could not do when responding to Deputy Paul Murphy yesterday, namely, interfere in the judicial process of another country. Ibrahim Halawa's trial was deferred for the 20th time yesterday.
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The Ceann Comhairle tried to prevent Deputy Paul Murphy from discussing this issue yesterday.
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I have requested a Topical Issue debate on the case of Ibrahim Halawa three times this week. The Ceann Comhairle is trying to shut down discussion on the matter again. I do not understand why he is doing so.
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I am asking about legislation.
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My responsibility is to enforce the rules of the House, which have been adopted by all Deputies.
Will the Deputy resume her seat, please?
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I want to speak----
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No, I will not resume my seat.
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I will not.
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I am asking the Tánaiste about-----
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The Deputy is not. That is an act of total disorder. I am asking her please to resume her seat.
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Well then I am out of order. I want to ask the Tánaiste a question.
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Ibrahim Halawa's trial was postponed for the 20th time. The man is very ill.
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I want to ask the Tánaiste a question about legislation-----
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I have not asked a question.
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I have a question to ask about legislation. Is this section of business not on promised legislation?
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I started by saying to the Tánaiste that I wanted to ask a question about legislation which I am not sure exists. However, could we find a mechanism to do what the Taoiseach said we could not do yesterday, which was to interfere in the judicial process of another country? In other words, can we do something about the imprisonment, the continued delay of the trial of, and illness of Ibrahim Halawa who is an Irish citizen?
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I am trying to find out-----
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-----if there is a legal mechanism that we can take. That is all.
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Is the Tánaiste willing to answer me?
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Could the Ceann Comhairle ask the Tánaiste if she is willing to answer me?
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I will ask the Deputy again to resume her seat. The rules of the House apply to the Deputy just as they apply to every one of the other 157 Members. There are no special rules for her.
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But the Ceann Comhairle's interpretation of the rules has gone a bit beyond where it should. In this particular instance-----
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We would like to ask questions as well.
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The Deputy accused me earlier of suppressing a debate on a particular issue. I sought today to convene a meeting of the delegation that travelled to Cairo on the Halawa issue and only one Member was available to attend. I will not accept from her that I am trying to suppress a debate. I am implementing the rules of the House as they apply to her and everyone else.
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The Ceann Comhairle used the word "suppress". What I said was that he tried to shut down Deputy Murphy yesterday-----
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I am just asking a question of the Tánaiste.
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Is there a possibility there is some legal mechanism, of which the Tánaiste can inform me, that the State can use to protect our citizen?
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I will not resume my seat. I will leave the House because I have another meeting to go to-----
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-----but I protest at the way the Ceann Comhairle is treating me and, more importantly, the way he is treating the issue. It is disgraceful.