Phone tapping allegations
Several Deputies press the Taoiseach for answers on alleged unlawful phone tapping, arguing the matter involves interception legislation and serious unanswered questions. The Taoiseach repeatedly says he does not have the details of the early-2000s case and can only repeat the prior report’s findings.
The programme for Government commits to transparency and accountability. The Taoiseach coined the phrase, "Paddy needs to know". Paddy wants to know. The issue of phone tapping has been raised by many Deputies following news reports that the phone of a PA of a sitting Deputy was tapped. As I understand it, it was someone who was in the Opposition and in the same constituency as a Minister.
The Taoiseach read the judge's reports on phone taps, but they were phone taps which had been properly cleared. However, these allegations involve phone taps which had not been properly cleared.
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We have had this mentioned and it is not relevant in the context of promised legislation.
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Actually the Minister for Housing, Planning, Community and Local Government, Deputy Simon Coveney, has promised legislation in this area.
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The interception legislation needs to be amended.
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I raise this issue in the context of interception legislation. The allegations involve phone taps which had not been properly cleared and, therefore, could not have been part of the judge's reports. As the Taoiseach went on to say it had happened in the early 2000s, he knows exactly what happened. As he has the reports, why can we not be told? Why can he not tell us what happened, who was involved and so on?
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What I read for the Deputy and the nation was the last report received from the justice dealing with the issue.
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He had asked questions of An Garda Síochána and the Department of Justice and Equality. He had asked for records, computer records and other information.
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He needs to talk to a whistleblower.
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In both cases, that is, in respect of An Garda Síochána and the Department, all of the questions had been answered to his satisfaction. His conclusion which is lodged in the Oireachtas Library was that-----
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He needs to speak to the whistleblower.
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It is not only about a small number of cases in which the law was complied with because he asked questions about a range of issues, as a justice would, in that regard-----