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Kerry bus pilot row

Summary

Deputy Danny Healy-Rae attacked a rural transport pilot in Kerry as inadequate, and the exchange became heated over whether it was a real route and over remarks made by the Minister of State. The Leas-Cheann Comhairle repeatedly intervened to restore order, and several Members traded interruptions and jokes before the Chair moved on.

As we all know, the Road Traffic (Amendment) Bill is going through the Chamber at present. In the last couple of days, much ado has been made by the transport Minister and Minister of State of some public transport being put in place in rural parts of the country.

It is ridiculous to think that eight routes in Kerry are supposed to meet the needs of all the rural people who will be isolated in their homes following the passage of this Bill. For example, one route is to take people from Castlegregory to Clahane once a month to play a game of cards.

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Pat the Cope Gallagher An Leas-Cheann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

The Deputy cannot go into detail. We know what the issue is.

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I want the Taoiseach to answer me honestly.

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It is not funny.

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Does the Taoiseach stand over a remark made by the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport that I am a road traffic terrorist like the rest of my gang?

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Brendan Griffin Minister of State at the Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport Fine Gael

I am not sure if Deputy Danny Healy-Rae welcomes it but I know his brother has not welcomed the scheme. He did, however, welcome it on Radio Kerry. He said even if there is one route in one part of Kerry he would welcome it once a week. Now in May he is not welcoming it.

It is a very positive initiative by the Minister, Deputy Ross. It is a pilot.

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A pilot is right.

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That is why there is one route in the month to explore the further roll-out of this initiative.

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Even a pilot is not safe when he drinks.

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It is a major step forward in terms of rolling out in rural Ireland-----

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Given the condition of the roads he would probably need a pilot.

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Pontius Pilate.

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-----the type of transport services that are available in urban parts of Ireland.

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Once a month is not a route.

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It is a very progressive step. I welcome it and I look forward to the initiation of the pilot-----

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Pontius Pilate.

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-----and exploring how it is working and hope for its further roll-out around the country.

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When the Bill has been pushed through there will be no more pilot. That is what it will mean. It is a shame to think that once a month there will be people going to play cards and that will be classified as a route. The Minister of State is letting down the people of Kerry and rural Ireland.

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The Deputy is taking it out on the people of Kerry.

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When he was a member of the transport committee he posed very hard questions to the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport but now that he is after getting a few bob and is a junior Minister he is standing behind him.

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Pat the Cope Gallagher An Leas-Cheann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

I will have to suspend the House. I expect more from the Minister of State.

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The Deputy is the one letting them down.

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Deputy Griffin will get the blame.

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The Minister of State should be restraining himself.

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Pat the Cope Gallagher An Leas-Cheann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

I want the Deputy to have respect for the Chair not the individual and I want the same from the Minister of State. Several other Members want to ask questions and we are not going to play the Kerry game here. It will be played in Croke Park.

In fairness to the Ministers this-----

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I am sorry but he rose me.

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Pat the Cope Gallagher An Leas-Cheann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

Sorry is too late. I want to remind Deputies-----

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I think we should respect the Leas-Cheann Comhairle. I am sitting next to one of the most cerebral Members from Kerry, Deputy Brassil. He never causes any difficulty.

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Whatever Kerry could be called it could not be cerebral.

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Pat the Cope Gallagher An Leas-Cheann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

The Chair cannot guarantee satisfactory answers. Deputies should remember that.

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He cannot guarantee satisfactory questions either.

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