The motion is a welcome development.

Returning to my previous question, if the Secretary General in the Minister's Department was aware of a major cost overrun and did not inform her, what action would she take?

Ring PricewaterhouseCoopers.

My understanding of the Deputy's question is based on the debate under way and I have already answered him in that regard. I believe what the Ministers have said.

The question was simple.

We have to wait for another report.

I asked the Minister what she would do.

If my Secretary General knew about a cost overrun-----

The Minister would fire him.

-----knew exactly what it was and waited a number of months, I would have questions. I would not be satisfied with it. I understand from what the Ministers have said that that was not the case in this instance.

We learned as we came into the Chamber that in September senior officials in the Department of Health were aware that the cost overrun was reaching a figure of €391 million.

It is reported in The Irish Times and on RTÉ. The minutes are there. We will have the copy when we leave this Chamber. Senior staff of the Department of Health knew that the overrun of that project was €391 million in September. A month later, with the Minister for Health sitting beside him, the Minister, Deputy Donohoe, delivered a budget to this Chamber under false pretences because somebody knew, at least senior officials knew, at that stage that there was a massive hole due to the overrun on expenditure on the children's hospital. We are asked to believe that a number of senior staff in the Department of Health did not tell their Minister. We are then asked to believe that the Minister, Deputy Harris, did not tell the Minister, Deputy Donohoe, who was in negotiations with him during the budget, and then we are told that we must wait for the PwC report.

The time is up.

I will finish on this. The PwC report-----

The Deputy's time is up.

I am just finishing on this.

No, the Deputy's time is up.

The Taoiseach stated the PwC report would hold individuals accountable and identify individuals who made particular mistakes, and yet the terms of reference do not allow for that.

The Deputy's time is up.

It is more spin and not enough substance. Will the Minister, Deputy Zappone, stand over the fact that the report on the €391 million figure is being issued today?

Deputy Pearse Doherty is taking his colleagues' time.

I myself did not get a chance to see that. I understand from Deputy Doherty's question that he is taking as a fact what he has read about that report.

The minutes of the board meeting.

Is that correct?

The minutes of the meeting.

The minutes of the board are published.

I will stand by what I stated previously about the report that is coming to us. That is when we will get our answers to the questions.

Is it credible that the Secretary General would attend at a board meeting, have a minute given to him that there was an understanding because there was an invoice for this overrun, and that he, as the Accounting Officer of the Department of Health, would conduct bilaterals with the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform and the Secretary General of the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform and not mention any of that? How could there be a rational budgetary process that was looking at every cent in the context of the overruns for last year and the potential costs for this year without that being mentioned? Is that credible?

I understand that the Deputy has these questions. That is all I would say, first of all. Is it credible? I do not know what was going on in the mind of the officials in having some sense of how they could ensure that whatever negotiations were going on would result in something that was good. I do not know what was going on in their minds. I understand the Deputy's question on whether it was credible. I understand that the Deputy is asking that. There is a question but I am not going to answer it.