Climate action report and funding
Deputy Howlin presses the Government on the climate action report, the need for real cross-party commitment, grant aid and state-agency support for the transition. The Taoiseach praises the report, says government help is possible but not to fund everything, and confirms a forthcoming debate and ministerial responses to its recommendations.
Last week finally saw the publication of the report of the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Climate Action entitled Climate Change: A Cross-Party Consensus for Action. The extent to which there is actual cross-party consensus for action remains to be seen. Sinn Féin took the surprising decision to reject the final draft of the report despite having been actively involved in drafting it for months. Its rejection by the Socialist Workers Party was less of a surprise.
The UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change issued a stark warning last year that we have only 12 years left to make major changes to our economies and ways of life in order to keep global warming at 1.5°C. That was last year so we now have 11 years left to take action. Even that 1.5°C warming is already linked to prolonged droughts in equatorial countries and to chaotic weather patterns across the globe.
Our cross-party climate report is our response to that international challenge. It provides a pathway to achieve our international commitment to reduce our greenhouse gas emissions by nearly half over the next 11 years and a total reduction of emissions to net zero by 2050. This can be done but it will be hugely ambitious.
I am not going to reiterate the contents of the report because we will have an opportunity to do so when we debate it in the House. I want to focus on the headline challenges that the report entails. We know where our greenhouse gas emissions come from so we can identify the sectors which require immediate action. The largest sources of emissions are agriculture, electricity generation and transport, with industry and commerce and people's home heating providing most of the rest.
Ireland's current emissions are the equivalent of 16 million tonnes of carbon dioxide and includes methane and other greenhouse gases. Our commitment is to reduce our emissions to 33 million tonnes by 2030, 11 years from now. We must further reduce that to zero by 2050 which means offsetting all remaining emissions by absorbing carbon elsewhere.
My questions to the Government are not only urgent but are direct and straightforward. Is the Government prepared to oversee the agricultural sector reducing its emissions from 20 million tonnes to 11 million tonnes over the next 11 years? How will that be achieved? Is the Government willing to invest public money in a massive programme of retrofitting all the homes in the State to bring emissions from people's home heating from 5.7 million tonnes to approximately 3 million tonnes and reducing energy poverty at the same time? Is the Government ready for the challenge of getting transport emissions down from approximately 12 million tonnes to 6.5 million tonnes over the next 11 years and all that entails in transforming public transport and how all of use transport in this country?
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I pay tribute to the work of the all-party climate change committee, particularly the Chairperson, Deputy Hildegarde Naughton, whom I will meet tonight to discuss the report along with the Minister for Communications, Climate Action and Environment, Deputy Bruton, but also to each member of the committee who did a good day's work. I regret that Sinn Féin and the radical left could not sign up to the report although I am not as surprised by that as Deputy Howlin. It should be evident to any of the young people who took part in those inspiring protests in favour of climate action that socialism, or this particular brand of it, is not the future. The future lies in the centre and the centre left. It is a good thing that Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael were able to sign up to this report, alongside the Labour Party, the Green Party and others.
The report was discussed at Cabinet yesterday and each Minister has been asked to examine the report and reply in detail to the individual recommendations which we expect will inform the Minister, Deputy Bruton's all-of-Government plan on climate action which we anticipate being able to publish this month or next month at the latest. I have also asked that there be a debate in the Dáil on the report so we have a chance to debate climate change and climate action. I agree that we need to catch up quickly over the next couple of years.
We are keen to work with farmers and the agrifood industry to reduce emissions. We need to do that in a way that recognises we need to protect the incomes and livelihoods of farmers and the agrifood industry and we will work with those industries to reduce emissions, modernise farming and reform the CAP, in particular, to make it more green-focused. That will require significant changes in the way we produce food and we are up for that challenge and want to do it in a collaborative way.
The cost of retrofitting all homes in the country is between €40 billion and €50 billion and it is not going to be possible for the Government to meet that cost. That would cost €5 billion a year over ten years.
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The Government could offer grant aid.
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We can help but it would not be possible, as some have suggested, for the Government to offer all carrot and pay for all these changes.
That is not possible. We cannot find €50 billion over ten or 20 years to retrofit everyone's house but we can help. Most of the cost would have to be borne by householders but there are models that can help, for example, people retrofitting their houses and paying for it over a number of years through their ESB bill and the savings they make from energy. Similarly when it comes to transport, the big shift we need over the next ten or 15 years as people change their cars is for them to buy electric and hybrid vehicles. It is not possible for the Government to buy a new car for everyone and no reasonable person is suggesting that. What we can do is use smart measures, such as grants and carbon tax, to make it more economical for people to choose the electric vehicle or hybrid option. That is exactly what we need to do as well as, in particular, rolling out the infrastructure and the charging points throughout the country.
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It is very important that we make a decision that this is the priority which, if it were not for Brexit, should be consuming all of our focus so that all of our policies in terms of investment are aimed at tipping the balance against carbon. We need to do this. I purposely did not ask about the ambitious target of 70% for electricity generated from renewables because that will be achieved. It means we have to be very clear about the requirement of State agencies such as Eirgrid to co-operate with energy generators and community generated electricity to achieve that objective. The bottom line for us now is to embrace this strategy not simply as another report but as the last opportunity we will have as a people to make our urgent contribution to the real challenge of our time. I ask the Taoiseach to indicate how this report will be treated and that it will not simply be regarded as another report from another committee but will be the definitive guide to policy throughout all of the sectors that will impact on our climate to achieve the really ambitious targets and groundbreaking policy changes that are required by this unprecedented challenge.
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With regard to how it will be treated, there was a discussion at Cabinet yesterday. This evening, I will meet the Chairman of the committee specifically on the report. We have proposed there should be a debate in the House on the report and I understand the Whip is working with the Business Committee to schedule it. Each Minister has been asked to respond in detail to each individual recommendation in the report and to pass on that response to the Minister for Communications, Climate Action and Environment, Deputy Bruton. The intention then is for us to publish a revised all-of-Government climate action plan this month or next month at the latest. Then it will be a case of getting on with it and I am really keen to get on with it. I agree it needs to be a major Government priority. There have to be other priorities too. Even without Brexit, I do not think climate change would be the only show in town. Jobs, the economy, incomes, livelihood and infrastructure are important.