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Dáil
‹ Ceisteanna ar Reachtaíocht a Gealladh - Questions on Promised Legislation

Order of Business

Summary

The Leas-Cheann Comhairle manages carry-over names and time limits while Dara Calleary presses the Government on guillotining promised legislation. The Taoiseach defends limiting debate in cases of filibuster, and the Chair reminds the House that guillotine decisions are made on the Order of Business.

Pat the Cope Gallagher An Leas-Cheann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

The Ceann Comhairle has left three names to be carried over from yesterday: Deputies Durkan, McConalogue and Eugene Murphy. I will take the leaders first, however. I think we will get them all in, providing they abide by the time limits.

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I note news of the new coalition between Fine Gael and Deputy McDonald's party in Seanad Éireann. They are introducing a guillotine on the Judicial Appointments Commission Bill. I wish the new coalition well. May it have happiness and prosperity.

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Fianna Fáil is getting jealous.

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Pat the Cope Gallagher An Leas-Cheann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

Deputies should not be inviting interruptions.

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In the context of promised legislation, is it the Government's intention to reintroduce the guillotine, or will it get permission from Deputy McDonald to do so, in this House for future legislation?

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Leo Varadkar The Taoiseach Fine Gael

I have never been a fan of guillotines. In my six years as a Minister in three Government Departments I never used the guillotine once. There does come a point, however, at which a filibuster is under way and a minority in either this House or the Seanad are preventing a democratic decision from being made. I do not know how many hours of debate that Bill had. I think it was 70 or 80 hours.

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One hundred hours.

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Leo Varadkar The Taoiseach Fine Gael

Any Deputy or Senator who cannot make his or her argument in 70 or 80 hours-----

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It is a new coalition.

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Leo Varadkar The Taoiseach Fine Gael

-----would probably have difficulty getting elected to this House anyway, whatever about the other one. There comes a time when the use of a guillotine or limiting debate is merited, and that is when debate has gone on for four, five or six days and people are just repeating themselves or deliberately using filibustering tactics to prevent the majority from having its view. However, as the Government does not have a majority in either the Dáil or the Seanad, we cannot decide to use a guillotine. We will be able to curtail debate only if the majority of the House wants that to be done.

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Pat the Cope Gallagher An Leas-Cheann Comhairle Fianna Fáil

It is not a matter for the Taoiseach to decide on a guillotine. I have been here for many years when a guillotine has been used. It is a matter for the House on the Order of Business to decide to use a guillotine. It is a matter of custom and practice.

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