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National broadband plan documents

Summary

Micheál Martin raised newly released FOI documents suggesting serious reservations had been voiced about the national broadband plan and a possible pause. The Taoiseach said he had not seen the documents but defended the process as involving many months of review before awarding NBI preferred bidder status.

I will speak to two developments in the context of the release of documentation under the Freedom of Information Act pertaining to the national broadband plan. It has emerged that at a meeting last September that was attended by the then Minister for Communications, Climate Action and Environment, Deputy Naughten, very serious reservations were articulated by the Minister for Public Expenditure and Reform and his Secretary General about the national broadband plan and the need for it to pause. At the meeting which was held the day before the Granahan McCourt consortium submitted the final tender Deputy Naughten indicated that the bill had risen by more than €300 million in one month. The Secretary General wanted it to pause and said he had very serious reservations. We have learned today that Eir is stating to the Oireachtas committee responsible for this issue that it could do it for €1 billion. For several weeks the Taoiseach has been tackling various people in the Opposition, saying they want to spend here, there and everywhere, but an increase of €300 million in one month suggests not too many on the Government side are overly exercised about runaway expenditure on major projects. Does the Taoiseach agree with the Secretary General at the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform that the project needs to be paused? Is the Government going ahead with the commitment it gave to the Dáil last month, or is it open to pausing the plan, reflecting on it and talking to the people charged with managing public expenditure for the Government?

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Leo Varadkar The Taoiseach Fine Gael

I thank the Deputy. As I have not seen the documents, it is difficult for me to comment on them, but-----

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They were published on thejournal.ie last week.

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Leo Varadkar The Taoiseach Fine Gael

That may well be the case, but I still have not seen them, which is why I cannot comment on them.

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Fair enough. I am only being helpful.

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Leo Varadkar The Taoiseach Fine Gael

I thank the Deputy. I argue that there was a considerable pause. We spent many months deliberating on the issue and exploring alternatives before coming to a Government decision to award preferred bidder status to National Broadband Ireland, NBI. Many months were spent in looking at all of the alternatives. I am curious that Eir is suggesting the project can be delivered for €1 billion. I will be interested to hear what the firm's representatives have to say at the committee today as Eir pulled out of the process. Before pulling out, it made an indicative bid which was slightly higher than that of Granahan McCourt at around €2.7 billion. It seems that the €1 billion bid about which Eir is talking would involve passing homes but not connecting any of them and does not cover maintenance costs for 25 years. Therefore, it would be pretty useless to anyone.

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