In chapter 7 of the programme for Government, there is a commitment to improve the lives of people with disabilities while chapter 9 refers to making people's older years better. Obviously, chapters 5 and 6, which relate to health and mental health, respectively, are also relevant. Is the Taoiseach aware that, under his Government, the HSE is applying charges to free travel pass holders with disabilities and elderly and ill people with free travel passes in respect of accessing important day services that are vital for them and their treatment and care? This charge has been applied despite the fact that these people depend on very modest social supports and incomes. This charge is being applied throughout the country. Will the Taoiseach commit to reversing this discriminatory and unfair charge? When will he do so and will the Government reimburse the disabled, elderly and ill people who are entitled to and hold free travel passes who are being charged this unfair amount?

I am not aware of that but I will have it checked out. My understanding is that the free travel pass applies to public transport, not transport provided by the HSE, the Department of Education and Skills and others.

We either care for the people or we do not.