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Dáil
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CAP and European Council deal

Summary

The Taoiseach and Deputy Carthy clashed over the CAP outcome, with Carthy calling it a 10% cut and disastrous for family farms. The Taoiseach defended the deal as improved from expectations and said he was open to an extended debate, while insisting on the facts and rejecting claims of failure.

I believe that we do need a debate on the European Council. We clearly need to stop the ridiculous exaggeration and hyperbole articulated by Deputy Carthy.

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As well as by the IFA.

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To describe it as "disastrous". Come off it.

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There is a 10% cut to the Common Agricultural Policy.

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And him talking about spelling the end of the family farm.

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Please, Deputy.

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We have been listening to the end of this and the end of that for the past 50 years.

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The Taoiseach agreed to a 10% cut to the Common Agricultural Policy.

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The Business Committee orders the House. I am in favour of an extended debate. However, I hope it is grounded in reality. The Common Agricultural Policy has been protected. It is in a far better shape than people would have anticipated over a year ago, given the United Kingdom leaving as a result of Brexit.

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This has taken huge resources out of the European budget. We have a good deal for farmers. It will never be ideal.

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We want to tease it out.

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Of course the Deputy does.

When people say it is good for Europe, we are Europe. We export our beef, milk and milk products to European markets.

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The Taoiseach does not have to mention that. We know that.

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If Europe does not recover, then our exports of beef, milk and other agricultural products decline. That is the context in which we are working. That said, we worked as a country to protect the Common Agricultural Policy.

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But you failed.

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No, we have not failed.

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A 10% cut is a failure.

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I resent that completely.

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We cannot have a debate on the issue now.

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I accept that but comments were made to which I feel I have to respond.

I have no issue with the Minister for Education and Skills speaking to the Dáil. A marking scheme has been devised and there is an idea of grades instead of exams. No individual Deputy is going to organise how the grading system is going to work. I have been in education and I understand how complex marking schemes are, even for the leaving certificate proper as we knew it. A non-leaving certificate examination is going to be complex, difficult and challenging for all concerned. It is better that once an announcement is ready to be made, in terms of the detail of a marking scheme and how it is going to work, that is when it is made. It is very difficult for the students in particular as they endeavour to look to their future.

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