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Dáil
‹ Ceisteanna ar Reachtaíocht a Gealladh - Questions on Promised Legislation

Debenhams workers dispute

Summary

Deputy Collins raised the continuing dispute involving former Debenhams workers and the limits of the Foley and Duffy Cahill recommendations. The Tánaiste said the report would not have solved the problem and rejected the idea of creating a State liquidation agency.

Catherine Connolly An Leas-Cheann Comhairle Independent

We will take all the festive greetings as given. I call Deputy Joan Collins and then Deputy Shortall and Deputy Nolan to complete the list.

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We have come to the end of a political year, but there are still workers who face the decision taken from the recommendation of Mr. Kevin Foley in respect of former Debenhams workers. They have to make a serious decision, and a ballot will most likely be taken, but those workers were not out on the picket line just to get their negotiated contracts from a company that practically liquidated itself so that it would not have to pay them what they were due. They did it for all the other workers who could face a similar situation in the next year. While the Duffy Cahill report in its entirety will not solve the problem, there are key parts of its recommendations that would play a role in solving the problem for workers into the future. Is the Tánaiste considering setting up a State agency liquidator that would cut across the huge costs private liquidators are causing in situations such as this one and ensure that workers are given preferential credit?

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Leo Varadkar The Tánaiste Fine Gael

I thank the Deputy. I welcome the acknowledgement that the Duffy Cahill report's implementation would not have solved this problem.

It was suggested early on in this dispute that the Debenhams dispute was analogous to the issue with Clerys. We know that it was not. Clerys had a highly valuable asset in the form of a building. This was a different dispute. The report from the chairman of the Labour Court, Kevin Foley, is instructive for anybody who wants to understand what was or was not true with regard to this dispute. There are not any plans to establish a State agency to handle liquidation, and I would not assume that a State agency would do it any less expensively. It might but I would not make the assumption.

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