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Dáil
‹ An tOrd Gnó - Order of Business

Leaders' exchange on farming and local cases

Summary

The Taoiseach strongly rejected Deputy Carthy's claims about the Agriculture Minister and defended the EU farming position, while Carthy kept insisting on a debate. Deputy Collins then argued with the Taoiseach over whether he had contacted him about the fishing incident; the Taoiseach said a debate could happen next week and later also addressed the maternity hospital issue.

Does the Taoiseach have anything to say on today's Order of Business?

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I reject the assertions by Deputy Carthy that the Minister, Deputy McConalogue, is endeavouring to disadvantage Irish farmers-----

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Nothing could be further from the truth. It is an outrageous assertion to make-----

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The Minister should come before the House and explain himself.

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Please.

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I did not interrupt the Deputy. The Minister is committed to agriculture and Irish farmers, and genuinely so. That should not be taken by-----

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He is fighting against every redistributive measure at EU level.

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He is not.

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He should come before the House and-----

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The Taoiseach without interruption.

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The Deputy's mask slips every so often in regard to his basically anti-European Union position, in terms of net contributions and all the rest. He has fought against the European Union all his life-----

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The Deputy will present everything and create a negative narrative on the European Union.

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Deputy Carthy, will you control yourself?

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The Deputy has been against the European Union all his life.

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I remind everyone that we are not meant to be having lengthy debates about these matters. Is the Taoiseach prepared to change the Order of Business or take on board any of the proposals?

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I want to be co-operative but if assertions are made that have nothing to do with the Order of Business-----

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Those assertions should not be made.

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In that case, I think we will have to deal with that in the Business Committee because it is a recurring feature that this is an extended part of Leaders' Questions. That is what is going on here.

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We are dealing with it and there will be-----

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Excuse me. We are dealing with it and alternative arrangements will be brought forward for our next sitting.

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The issues have not come to a conclusion, so we will have time for a debate next week.

To respond to Deputy Michael Collins, he did not ring me, and if the situation was that serious, he should have done so.

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I rang the Taoiseach's office in Dublin that morning, and they put me through to the Cork section and I have got no reply since.

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Please, Deputy-----

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I left a message. The Taoiseach has to correct the record of the Dáil.

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The Deputy knows how to ring me. He rang me often enough previous times.

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I have never in my life rang you, because I have never got any satisfaction from you.

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You did when you were first elected-----

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You rang me looking for a vote but I knew you would turn your back on the people of west Cork, and I would not vote for you. Never once did I ring you.

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Please-----

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You were trying to get a deal done for yourself. You were talking to everybody.

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Not once. Shame on you to lie.

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Leaving that to one side, there is no issue with us having a debate next week or the week after that.

This is an ongoing issue. We will respond to the specifics of the case.

In terms of Holles Street hospital, Government proposals have not come before Cabinet. There will be time for a debate on that and for me and the Minister for Health to bring clarity to the House, but it has not come before Government.

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Division Carried

Question put: "That the proposal for dealing with today's business be agreed to."

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