I call Deputy Martin Browne.

I want to bring the Taoiseach back to the issue of ambulances, which came up yesterday and this morning. I will give an example. A doctor called an ambulance for a woman in her late 80s a couple of weeks ago in Cashel at 1.40 p.m. and it came at 7.40 p.m. The doctor was in such a panic due to the health of this woman that he called it. The family contacted me at 5.30 a.m. the following morning and the woman had spent another ten hours on a trolley in the hospital. I have been told that the last review of the National Ambulance Service was in 2014 and I remember raising the issue when ambulances were taken out of Cashel. The Taoiseach is talking about engaging with the health service. How long is the engagement going to last? I guarantee the Taoiseach that while it may not be in Cashel or in Tipperary, someone will lose their life because of the shambles of the ambulance service that this Government and previous Governments have created. It is going to be on their hands when families lose a loved one.

There needs to be a balance in this debate as well. The fundamental transformation that took place in terms of pre-hospital emergency care-----

We warned them in 2014.

Again, there is constant interrupting all of the time. The Deputies either want an answer or they do not want an answer. My view is that the professionalisation of pre-hospital ambulance care was one of the best things we did in this country. We professionalised emergency technicians and that whole area.

Families are still waiting.

Yesterday, when I had a substantive question from Deputy Lowry on the issue on Leaders’ Questions, I made the point that both the Health Information and Quality Authority and those who are professionals in this field believe the framework that has been developed over the years is the optimal one. I said that in the light of what has been articulated by people on the ground and by Deputies, there needs to be a review of that. However, let us not throw the baby out with the bathwater either. A lot of progress has been made and it needs to be improved and expanded upon, but there is no comparison between what we have now and what we had 20 years ago in this country.

They are supposed to answer the calls within three minutes.

Please, Deputy. I call Deputy Pádraig O’Sullivan.

They just keep knocking everything and making it out to be ridiculous.

Three minutes, not six hours.

We need to deal with these interruptions.

There are interruptions coming from all sides.

They are coming from one direction, with respect.

Well, primarily from one direction. We will deal with that in just a second. I call Deputy Pádraig O'Sullivan.