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Dáil
‹ Ceisteanna ar Reachtaíocht a Gealladh - Questions on Promised Legislation

Recognising Ukrainian qualifications and licences

Summary

Deputy Barry asked how refugees' qualifications and social insurance records would be recognised so they could work. Deputy Murphy then raised delays in accepting Ukrainian driving licences. The Minister said existing migration experience should be used and pointed to promised legislation to improve licence recognition.

Bringing 100,000 Ukrainian people to Ireland and helping them start new lives is not an easy task for any government. It is much tougher, of course, for the refugees and it is the responsibility of the Government to remove unnecessary obstacles they may face. What steps will the Government take to ensure their qualifications are recognised and they can work here at a level for which they are qualified? What steps will it take to ensure their social insurance contributions can be taken into account here, given the difficulties that will invariably exist in accessing details? The Minister might comment on housing arrangements. Clearly, the market playbook is not going to work in that regard. Last but not least, Migrant Rights Centre Ireland constantly highlight examples of unscrupulous employers who exploit workers precisely because they are vulnerable. Workers who do not speak English are particularly vulnerable. In-person English classes for all refugees are needed, which is something the State does not even provide currently. Does the Minister agree and if so, what steps will he take to achieve it?

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We do not know the exact number of refugees that will come. We do not know the duration or future path of this war. It is likely that many refugees will remain in countries close to their homeland with a view to going back. We have experience in successfully managing workers and others coming from the new accession countries in the early and middle part of the previous decade and, therefore, we should use that experience. The Minister for Social Protection has made it clear that, on arrival, those workers will receive all the support available from the State, including a personal public service number, access to relevant social welfare schemes, and full health supports, as well as the basic welcome of being fed and given the sense that they are in a secure place. We will do that. We have to see how the numbers evolve but we will make sure they are welcomed in a proper way.

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To follow on from Deputy Barry, for two years the Minister's Department has been dealing with the recognition of Ukrainian licences through the Road Safety Authority, RSA. Unfortunately, we are at a stalling point where the RSA says that it has not completed the due diligence on whether a Ukrainian licence can be accepted here on a par with an EU licence. Countries in the EU that have qualified the Ukrainian licence as being comparable are Italy and Portugal.

I ask that the Minister instruct the RSA to complete its due diligence with those European countries. We must give these refugees every opportunity. Unless the Government is going to house all the refugees in the city where there is public transport, it is going to put them at a huge disadvantage in the country and rural Ireland. I heard the Minister mention caravan parks, which are generally in quite remote areas where there is no public transport. These people must be able to avail of transport and be in the same position as other residents.

Comment on this

We have within promised legislation the Road Traffic and Roads Bill 2021. In amendments we are seeking to introduce on Committee Stage are provisions that will help us on the licensing and recognition of licences from a variety of different locations. I look forward to discussing such arrangements the Deputy talked about when that Bill comes back from Committee Stage, which I hope will be soon.

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