Security ERO and school completion
Deputy O'Reilly asked whether the Government would defend the security industry employment regulation order and when workers would get a pay rise. Deputy McAuliffe then raised governance and employment issues in school completion programmes, and the Taoiseach said both matters were being addressed through negotiations and employment pathway discussions.
With the Taoiseach's co-operation, we will take the two final speakers together. I call Deputy Louise O'Reilly, followed by Deputy Paul McAuliffe.
Comment on this
Workers in the security industry have not had a pay rise since 2019. In August, and for the second time, a small number of employers in the industry have secured an injunction against the employment regulation order, ERO. Can the Taoiseach confirm that this ERO will be challenged by the Government? Can he also give us an indication as to when these workers are going to receive the pay rise they desperately need and deserve, and the other improvements to their terms and conditions of employment?
Comment on this
This week, I visited Ballymun Anseo school completion programme, SCP, which, along with the Finglas SCP, does fantastic work. I do not need to persuade the Taoiseach of their merits, given he introduced the schemes. There are issues around governance since the transfer of the programmes back to the Department of Education, which is very welcome, particularly for those SCPs covered by education and training boards, ETBs. Will the Taoiseach consider the matter and come back to me with any clarifications on staffing and pension arrangements for employees, who are often members of staff of the ETB on secondment? There are also many in those projects who are not ETB staff.
Comment on this
Deputy O'Reilly has raised this issue before. We would be anxious to defend the ERO and I agree with her on the importance of that and of EROs more generally.
In response to Deputy McAuliffe in respect of those SCPs, that has been raised on the margins of the recent talks on Building Momentum and the replacement. We have to work to try to give a sustainable employment and career pathway for those involved in school completion, which is often the most important work in our education system, to enable young people to complete their education.
A Leas-Cheann Comhairle, last week during the Order of Business, in an exchange with Deputy Paul Kehoe, a very brief exchange, as to whether I shared his concern about some journalism in that week's Sunday Independent regarding an interview recorded with former Minister, Shane Ross, about his book on Deputy Mary Lou McDonald being dropped, in agreeing with Deputy Kehoe, I speculated that the reason the interview was dropped may have been a fear of being sued. I also said, “apparently a political party got access to the interview”, but that I stood to be corrected. A closer reading of the interview showed that it was actually extracts of the book that were to be offered to Sinn Féin rather than the interview. I am happy to clarify that and to correct the record.