Pandemic bonus and family law alienation
The Finance Minister updated on the pandemic bonus, saying most claims had been paid and the rest were being processed. Deputy Durkan then raised a family-law alienation issue; after procedural exchanges, the Taoiseach said he would speak to the Justice Minister and Attorney General for further advice.
I propose to take Questions Nos. 351, 352, 353, 354, 355 and 356 together.
The Debt Warehousing scheme allows for the deferral of the payment of VAT, PAYE (Employer) and certain self-assessed income tax liabilities, including TWSS and EWSS overpayments. It provided a vital liquidity support to businesses during the Covid pandemic and continues to support businesses as they recover from the impacts of the pandemic and the current energy crisis. The scheme was automatically available to businesses and individuals that are managed by Revenue’s Business and Personal Divisions. Revenue’s Business Division manages enterprises with an annual turnover less than €3 million, which accounts for the majority of business taxpayers. Revenue’s Personal Division deals with all business entities with no trade or professional income such as trusts, charities, sporting bodies.
The scheme was also available on application to larger businesses managed by Revenue’s Large Corporates and Medium Enterprises Divisions, where such businesses have been adversely impacted by COVID-19 and included a small number of individuals in Revenue’s High Wealth Division. Revenue’s Medium Enterprises Division deals with businesses with an annual Irish turnover of more than €3 million (but less than €190 million) as well as the subsidiaries/parents of such companies. Large Corporates Division deals with the largest companies with an annual Irish turnover of more than €190 million per annum.
The value of debt warehoused at the end of February 2023 was €2,257 million for 64,746 customers. 6,617 of these customers have warehoused debt in excess of €50,000 and this cohort accounts for €1,928 million of the overall warehoused debt figure. The breakdown of the warehoused debt by Division and by Sector, including the Medium Enterprises Division, is as follows:
Debt in the Debt Warehouse by Sector and Division as at end of February 2023
*Variances in calculation of total figures is due to rounding
The extension to the scheme announced in October 2022 means that there is no obligation on businesses to commence repaying their warehoused debt until 1 May 2024. Therefore, the question of businesses ‘defaulting’ on the repayment of their warehoused debt does not currently arise. However, 635 customers with €60m of debt previously warehoused have exited the warehouse scheme to date, with the debt determined as uncollectible due to a variety of reasons, including liquidation, examinership, cessation of trading and bankruptcy.
It remains a key condition of the Debt Warehousing Scheme that current liabilities are filed and paid on time, and this message has been consistently communicated by Revenue in all its warehousing communications and guidance documents to date. Revenue is actively engaging with businesses in the scheme to ensure that they are complying with this key condition in order to retain the benefits of the scheme. Where payment difficulties arise, particularly in relation to current tax obligations, I am assured that Revenue will work proactively with businesses who engage early to resolve these payment difficulties.
However, where there is a continued lack of engagement and persistent non-compliance with current tax obligations, businesses will lose the benefit of the debt warehouse scheme. To date, just over 12,800 customers with warehoused debt of €197m have had their warehouse status revoked due to persistent non-compliance issues and the debt concerned is being pursued. Where a business addresses their non-compliance issues and brings their current taxes up to date, the business can have its warehouse status reinstated. As at end February 2023, 338 of the revoked cases have had their warehouse status reinstated, in respect of €20m debt.
With regard to the repayment of warehoused debt from 1 May 2024, Revenue’s approach to collecting the tax debt remaining in the warehouse at that time will be flexible and tailored to each business based on its capacity to pay. An interest rate of 3% per annum has begun to accrue on warehoused debt from 1 January 2023. This is a significant reduction from the standard interest rates of 8% and 10% per annum that normally apply to late payments of tax. In advance of the 1 May 2024 repayment date, Revenue will engage with all businesses availing of the scheme at that time to agree a tailored phased payment arrangement in respect of the ‘parked’ liability, over an agreed timeframe.
The breakdown of the eligible debt and payments made to date by Division is given in the following table. The Business Division case base consists largely of small and medium sized enterprises.
*Variances in calculation of total figures is due to rounding
Comment on this
My question is for the Minister for Health. A year and a half has elapsed since the Government announced the payment of a €1,000 pandemic bonus to front-line workers. As late as last January, according to the Irish Examiner, more than half the non-HSE staff among that cohort had not been paid. Remarkably, not everybody has been paid yet, even though the value of the payment has been eroded by inflation over the past year and a half. People are coming to me from various organisations and individually. It is a lamentable performance by the HSE. What I need from the Minister is a list of the people and the organisations that have not been paid yet and some sort of rough timetable as to how much longer they will be kept waiting.
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To date, €208 million in tax-free payments has been distributed. That gets lost sometimes when there is an ever-decreasing number of people who have not been paid and who, quite rightly, are looking to be paid. At this point the vast majority - over 90% - of the organisations that have submitted claims to the HSE have been engaged with. There were issues with compliance and the submissions. The HSE was working with the organisations to resolve those issues. The vast majority of those organisations now either have been paid or have had a positive response from the HSE. There are a small number left, which I acknowledge, and the HSE is working through those claims as quickly as it can.
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Deputy, I am stopping you there. You are treading across the separation of powers. You are making statements about the courts. It is not allowed, and I am ruling it out.
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I hate to disagree with the Chair, but I must also tell you that when an issue is brought to the attention of a Deputy, that Deputy's job is to bring it to the forces or the powers that be in order to have it resolved such that he or she can then take responsibility in any way possible. I have informed you, a Leas-Cheann Comhairle, insofar as I can. I am now available to hear a response from you as to what you can allow-----
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-----because the Ceann Comhairle has allowed me to discuss this again and again, so you are attempting to overturn the decision of the Ceann Comhairle.
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I know that Deputy Durkan has raised this matter a number of times, and we have spoken about it one to one. The issue is alienation and how courts treat it when it comes to family law. I have a genuine difficulty in that I am not sure what the Government can do when it comes to how the courts operate, but I will certainly speak to the Minister for Justice and the Attorney General about the matter to get more advice on it.